New line of Triumph Tiger 1200s

[Checkswrecks]

I'm not going back to a chain which limits choices and have enjoyed the few times I've gotten to ride the Triumph 1200. But the early ones had reliability issues and the later ones are so tall and heavy that I haven't wanted to own one. But now that they have
redesigned them and gotten he base model to 528 lbs WET (so they claim) vs the Tenere claimed 575 lbs before ANY accessories,
plus 148 hp to almost catch up with Dirt Dad's KTM 1290,
plus all the newfangled stuff like on his 1290.
hmmmm -

Downsides are that it still looks tall, not crazy about the TFT display, and the front looks like a merge of a BMW GS with a Harley Pan America.

Looking forward to trying one but the $19,100 - $24,200 price is way more than I want to pay for a motorcycle, especially being retired.

Tiger 1200

The ultimate large capacity adventure ride. It’s time to reset your expectations with the all-new Tiger 1200 family.

www.triumphmotorcycles.com

UPDATED: Triumph Unveils Five New Tiger 1200 Models - Adventure Rider

Triumph's long-awaited new Tiger 1200 is here. Actually, two families of Tiger 1200 models are here. And Triumph says the new Tigers have been thoroughly revamped and are its lightest, most powerful, and capable big Tiger yet.

advrider.com

 

[tntmo]

Seems like they are trying to look like a BMW GS. I owned a Tiger 955i before the Tenere, I loved the triple engine but it did have a top heavy feel to it at low speeds. Once moving it was nice, but slow speed stuff is sort of important if you plan to use it off road. Looks like a contender, but I'm not about spending that kind of money either so will have to wait until they hit the used market before I would be interested.

 

[Sierra1]

The Tiger is a good-looking bike. But, like CW say, that's a lot of money for a bike. Especially when my "lowly" Yamaha does everything I need/want her to do.

 

[HeliMark]

First I have seen "blind spot" tech on a bike. I hope the warning light isn't in the mirror's since they are a common casualty off road. Going to the off firing order on the engine does give it a good low end torque, I know my 900 will tractor along like the S10 due to that. Only small thing with that new firing order, is the engine "muddles" in the middle RPM band, and re-awakens when you get around 7,000 RPM. I do like the availability of the 7.9 gallon fuel tank. May make it a little top heavy when you fill it up, but I like bikes that have a 250-300 mile range with a comfortable reserve.

That display, how could they have gotten worse then the one I have?

That price,,, damn...

 

[Longdog Cymru]

The wet weight quoted is with the fuel tank 90% full, when you consider the GT version has a 20 litre tank and the Rally version has a 30 litre tank (and a 350 mile fuel range), that’s not too bad. Apparently, the Rally version is 17 kgs lighter than the equivalent BMW GSA, so that’s pretty good and the Triumphs still have shaft drive too.

 

[Squibb]

It's a better effort for sure, but doesn't seem to bring anything new to the party. Some say it's what the T12 could have been from the outset, instead of being all tall, top heavy & troublesome.

They land in April 2022 in the UK. I hope Triumph have got it right this time; nevertheless I shall be leaving the beta testing to the brave early adopters.

 

[MFP]

Something tells me this time around the Tiger 1200 line is going to be much more on point....

 

[Donk]

Got to give Triumph an A for effort. They really set out to improve the bike, hopefully they’ve succeeded. I owned a ‘14 Explorer before my S10, rode it for 10K miles and never loved it. I always felt like the weight of the bike was going to overwhelm the front end going into a corner. I had reservations about going to the less powerful S10 but never regretted the decision. Granted this will be 2 generations away from the bike I owned but not in a hurry to own another Triumph especially considering the price.

 

[RCinNC]

I feel the same about going back to a chain drive, and it really limits the choices for any future replacement for the Super Tenere when that time comes. I'll hit 100,000 miles at some point in 2022, but my research into what's coming in the ADV market for 2022 is pretty slim pickings as far as a shaft drive ADV touring bike is concerned. A friend of mine loves his 1250GS, and I think that, the Tiger, and the Moto Guzzi are the only other shaft drive choices.

Might have to go looking for a Super Tenere again....

 

[yoyo]

I got to sit on the the new bikes at the bike show in the NEC, the Rally version is tall but no taller than the GSA, at 5'10" I can easily flat foot the GT version. Looks wise I'm not sure, don't dislike it but it doesn't tug the heart strings.

From reading reports of the Tiger 900 there appear to be vibes due to the firing order, I'd expect to 1200 to be the same so I'd like read some owner reviews before I'd consider it.

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[Longdog Cymru]

I got to sit on the the new bikes at the bike show in the NEC, the Rally version is tall but no taller than the GSA, at 5'10" I can easily flat foot the GT version. Looks wise I'm not sure, don't dislike it but it doesn't tug the heart strings.

From reading reports of the Tiger 900 there appear to be vibes due to the firing order, I'd expect to 1200 to be the same so I'd like read some owner reviews before I'd consider it.

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Yes, the new Triumph 1200 has the so-called T-plane crank as fitted in the 900 bikes which has attracted criticism for being prone to vibrations. Why they didn’t leave it alone is beyond me.

 

[yoyo]

Yes, the new Triumph 1200 has the so-called T-plane crank as fitted in the 900 bikes which has attracted criticism for being prone to vibrations. Why they didn’t leave it alone is beyond me.

Apparently the T plane crank helps off road, I read a comment that they should have put that in the Rally and left a conventional crank in the GT model which would have made sense.

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[Longdog Cymru]

Apparently the T plane crank helps off road, I read a comment that they should have put that in the Rally and left a conventional crank in the GT model which would have made sense.

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Agree, I wouldn’t take my S10 off-road and I reckon you could count the number of Triumph 1200s that get taken off-road on one hand! Adventure style bikes are really a type of sports tourer for those who don’t want a great big fairing or a cramped riding position.

 

[bimota]

Agree, I wouldn’t take my S10 off-road and I reckon you could count the number of Triumph 1200s that get taken off-road on one hand! Adventure style bikes are really a type of sports tourer for those who don’t want a great big fairing or a cramped riding position.

yep mike

thats me all over the sports tourers are to cramped for me riding 2 up 8-10 hr days in europe these big adv bikes are superb comfort for touring

rob

 

[HeliMark]

Apparently the T plane crank helps off road, I read a comment that they should have put that in the Rally and left a conventional crank in the GT model which would have made sense.

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Yes, the new Triumph 1200 has the so-called T-plane crank as fitted in the 900 bikes which has attracted criticism for being prone to vibrations. Why they didn’t leave it alone is beyond me.

I have a 900 Rally Pro. The new engine produces a lot of low end torque, that really helps with crawling around off road if you need to, and tractor up a hill. Qualities that the triple with the regular firing order really isn't very good at. For me, it is pretty close to what the S10 will do, but you need to wind it out for the triple to come alive, so as with everything a bit of a compromise. Same basic model (GT/Rally) same engine, lower costs. Every one is trying to use the same engine across several models, Yamaha is a good example of that.

As far as vibration, like everything, it is pretty subjective. Yes, for me there is more, and with the grip puppies, it is not bad. My right had will go numb after an hour or so, but it did also on the S10. I think the only bike I never had a problem on, was my Honda ST1300.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . I think the only bike I never had a problem on, was my Honda ST1300.

The only "vibe zone" I had an issue with the Honda was the low 80s (mph). The Tenere might have a "vibe zone", but with cruise control, I don't hold the bars the same.

 

[Donk]

All this makes me wonder why Yamaha never did anything with the S10 going forward. Clearly they have the ability to improve the bike if they desired. Look at the T700 engine and think if they redesigned the S10 engine more like that, a fun rev happy parallel twin with a 10k redline! It be a winner. Then after a year or two put it in a sport touring style bike or a cruiser a la Honda. The rest of the bike is pretty darn good, good aeros comfortable and no one would trade the rock solid dependability for a few less pounds of weight. Well maybe but you get my drift. The big Adv bike market seems alive and well yet Yamaha is throwing in the towel. Tragic really.

 

[Sierra1]

FJ/FJR, VMax, TW . . . .

 

[Checkswrecks]

All this makes me wonder why Yamaha never did anything with the S10 going forward. Clearly they have the ability to improve the bike if they desired. Look at the T700 engine and think if they redesigned the S10 engine more like that, a fun rev happy parallel twin with a 10k redline! It be a winner. Then after a year or two put it in a sport touring style bike or a cruiser a la Honda. The rest of the bike is pretty darn good, good aeros comfortable and no one would trade the rock solid dependability for a few less pounds of weight. Well maybe but you get my drift. The big Adv bike market seems alive and well yet Yamaha is throwing in the towel. Tragic really.

I've been told more than once that Mama Yama has a relatively small engineering staff to support existing models, which includes their quads, and that they've been swamped. Part of it was a recall and then the long time they put into re-engineering the T700 to bring it to market. These have been on top of the usual product upgrade cycle.

Even so, upgrading the 1200 is way overdue.

 

[SuckSqueezeBangBlow]

Agree, I wouldn’t take my S10 off-road and I reckon you could count the number of Triumph 1200s that get taken off-road on one hand! Adventure style bikes are really a type of sports tourer for those who don’t want a great big fairing or a cramped riding position.

You mean like this? LOL!