Great for the Starbucks crowd.
http://blogs.motorcyclistonline.com/spied-bmw-s1000-adv-41553.html
Mark
http://blogs.motorcyclistonline.com/spied-bmw-s1000-adv-41553.html
Mark
Excellent post Mark. I detected passion and emotion in that post ::024::markjenn said:Jeez, I wonder what you guys would have thought back in 1980 when BMW produced the R80GS which essentially started the entire adventure bike movement. "Stupidest idea in the world, sticking a big street-bike engine in a big touring dual-sport..." is what I would expect.
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And just how different is this bike from Yamaha building a FZ-09 triple-based adventure tourer that everyone seems to be having a wet dream about? Does one-extra-cyl and 150cc make a bike go from "I'd kill to have that", to "Dumbest thing I ever saw."
- Mark
You're probably right, but given that a Ducati Multistrada is about 70-lbs heavier than a Panigale, I think this bike could be low-500's pretty easily. And I don't see any durability issue if they use the sportbike frame - these things are hell for stout for handling and have huge reserves of strength. They will have to fit a different subframe, of course.HeliMark said:I don't think this will be 100 pounds lighter.
Point is, an inline four, with its heavy, wide, valve train up high in the chassis and the with the S1000 engine being an ultra short stroke design, is going to have a vastly different powerband and being much wider than the S10's parallel twin, is a poor choice of engine to mount low in the chassis. An S10 does MUCH better off road than you give it credit for. I don't believe "everyone" is having a wet dream about an FZ-09 ADV bike, I'm sure not, for the same reasons, the engine is much wider than an adv bike engine should be. I believe that's why Yamaha is building the smaller displacement twin seen in the MT-07. That would be a nice engine for a lightweight adv bike.markjenn said:......truth be told, our beloved S10's aren't that great either....And just how different is this bike from Yamaha building a FZ-09 triple-based adventure tourer that everyone seems to be having a wet dream about?
I'm a fan of twins in adv bikes too, but not everyone shares our opinion. There certainly a lot of riders who really don't care about off-road performance, who like triples and fours, and how want (compared to the S10) 85% more power, 15% less weight, and cast rims that can mount sticky sport bike tires. For these riders, this bike will out-perform the Multistrada handily for $2K+ less. And go down gravel roads just fine.20valves said:Point is, an inline four, with its heavy, wide, valve train up high in the chassis and the with the S1000 engine being an ultra short stroke design, is going to have a vastly different powerband and being much wider than the S10's parallel twin, is a poor choice of engine to mount low in the chassis. An S10 does MUCH better off road than you give it credit for. I don't believe "everyone" is having a wet dream about an FZ-09 ADV bike, I'm sure not, for the same reasons, the engine is much wider than an adv bike engine should be. I believe that's why Yamaha is building the smaller displacement twin seen in the MT-07. That would be a nice engine for a lightweight adv bike.
Three hundred horsepower General Purpose Super Bikes with 100 modes for everything and built in camera's and wifi connectivity and apps.squarebore said:Wonder what we'll be riding in ten years?
fixt! ::008::GrahamD said:You will spendhoursdays at the dealer getting your bike fixed...