need part help

[patrickg450]

Not sure why but I lost shifting capability on my last trip. It got progressively worse as I rode but I made it home...............

My bike is at my local shop and we are waiting on parts. I was hoping my fellow ST forum friends could help me locate a part as it is on back order form.

part number

23p-18101-0000 shift shaft

 

[avc8130]

Grease the pivot. Seriously. I can't believe it, but it works.

Your coworkers seem a lot like my college buddies ::024::

ac

 

[patrickg450]

yea I love my coworkers.........EDIT


let me clarify, I can upshift but not down. The shift shaft is bad and need the part.

 

[klunsford]

::026:: that worked for me also.

 

[avc8130]

yea I love my coworkers.........EDIT


let me clarify, I can upshift but not down. The shift shaft is bad and need the part.

Did you try greasing the pivot? I know it sounds crazy, and I didn't believe it myself, but that thing needs to be SPOTLESS for the shifting to function.

ac

 

[limey]

Did you try greasing the pivot? I know it sounds crazy, and I didn't believe it myself, but that thing needs to be SPOTLESS for the shifting to function.

ac

100% true. ::008:: grease mine all the time.

 

[Caddoview]

I had the same problem, could not down shift. Greasing the pivot solved the problem.

 

[WRW9751]

Any chance of getting someone to snap a picture of what your calling the pivot?

 

[Combo]

Has your local shop taken the shift shaft out already? I hope not because as others before me have posted.............. I bet it just needs cleaning and lube.

 

[jajpko]

Any chance of getting someone to snap a picture of what your calling the pivot?

Try this... You will notice a small zerk fitting that I installed, so the pivot does not have to be taken apart. Maybe once a year, just for grins.. ::025::

 

[patrickg450]

I appreciate the suggestions but it is not a grease here fix. The whole shifter, upward linkage and actual shift shaft that goes into the side case (shift shaft) are all working and moving correctly. There is no bind as I can see everything moving correctly, when I go to down shift it all moves nice with no bind but it never engages and goes into 3 gear or lower. For the most part I am stuck in 4th gear and can go up just fine, and back to 4th. When I try to go into 3 it all moves but never engages.

wish it was just grease.

 

[Don in Lodi]

I appreciate the suggestions but it is not a grease here fix. The whole shifter, upward linkage and actual shift shaft that goes into the side case (shift shaft) are all working and moving correctly. There is no bind as I can see everything moving correctly, when I go to down shift it all moves nice with no bind but it never engages and goes into 3 gear or lower. For the most part I am stuck in 4th gear and can go up just fine, and back to 4th. When I try to go into 3 it all moves but never engages.

wish it was just grease.

That sounds internal.

 

[patrickg450]

exactly Don. I was hoping someone could help me locate the part. Hence the part number in my post, I did not need help diagnosing the problem. The shop owner, 2 mechanics and myself (now Don) all agree it is internal.

 

[avc8130]

exactly Don. I was hoping someone could help me locate the part. Hence the part number in my post, I did not need help diagnosing the problem. The shop owner, 2 mechanics and myself (now Don) all agree it is internal.

Sorry we all beat you for greasing the pivot, it's just that shifting problems have been reported and that has always been the solution.

If you truly have something internal, you are the first person to have a "split the cases" issue with the Tenere we have ever seen.

ac

 

[patrickg450]

no please dont take it that I am mad, I am not but yea I did see a lot of "hey grease it here". ::002::

It happens, will know what to do should I have a mechanical movement issue.............

So any way the part is on back order, which means all 3 yammie warehouses are out of stock. Got my friend who is a DR helping out, shop is making phones calls............I was hoping a forum brother would know a bike shop that has one of everything and post up for me to try so and so.

 

[snakebitten]

There is a reason that is going to be a hard part to get. I wouldn't inventory it if it was my capital tied up.

For a Tenere, I would stock:
Brake pads
Filters
Batteries
Bulbs
Plugs
1 Valve cover gasket
1 Headlight wiring harness
1 set of Drive shaft seals
1 Rear shock (knob)
Spoke kit
1 Sump cover


I'm really just echoing avc8130. You are a first. That would be a very dusty part on a shelf.

Good luck. Please keep us filled in.

 

[GrahamD]

I hope YAMAHA is taking it seriously and not sending back emails telling him to grease the part.

That's the trouble with these things..

People have to remember how to order parts. Takes a bit of retraining..

Any wreckers / bone yards that have one?

 

[patrickg450]

I am guessing the DR found one, the system showed it shipped on Friday. Should be here Tuesday, will let you know and try to get a pict or two up.

Most commonly shift shafts go because riders "stomp" down to hard and spread out the forks on them. I doubt I did this but hey it is possible. Also it is common (not on a ST) for damage to occur when you have cased a rock, it you are on the gas and under torque and force it up or down it put the shift shaft in a bind. The weak point is the forks, there is also a de-tint spring that can fail. No it is not apart yet and we were waiting to see about the parts, about a 40 min job to replace.

 

[avc8130]

Not to be a jerk...but I assume you have seen this thread:

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=5701.0

ac

 

[scott123007]

Well, you're not going to be happy if they order you a shift shaft because that is NOT your problem, if your description of how it shifts, is accurate. If you can go from 4th gear to 6th gear and back to 4th without a problem, your shift shaft is doing its job. It does not know what gear you are in, only that it has to turn a drum, and if it is able to change ANY gears up or down, it will change every gear up or down, unless there is a problem with the drum itself. If the guys at the shop don't realize this and are ordering you a shift shaft, they need to take it apart first and see what the real issue is. And if they're the ones telling you all the horseshit about how a shift shaft gets bent, or forks get spread from pushing on the shifter too hard, (they can't) etc , you need to take that bike somewhere else. There are pins on the end of your shift drum that the shift shaft needs to "hook" on and turn to up shift or down shift. Maybe the pins holder on the end of your shift drum has come off and the pin the fork needs to hook to shift you into third has fallen out, or if it is part of the drum, broken off , but it is not the shaft itself. There is a spring that could be at fault, but, the way you describe the problem, it would only return in one direction, so you could upshift, or, downshift, but not both. I can't believe this shop is special ordering you a part without diagnosing the problem first. At any rate, I would do what EVERYONE here has suggested, regardless of how it "feels" and grease the pivot. If that still does not work, I would take the bike to a dealership that knows what the hell they're doing.


This edit is a couple of hours after I posted the above. I know it's not smart to post something with such certainty, less the one in a million chance that something I have NEVER heard of or SEEN in my life has happened with that shift shaft, LOL.
My bigger concern is that shop, orders you that shaft, charges you for it or warranties it, finds out it is not the problem, holds your bike longer while they figure out what the real problem is and order more parts if needed, and then TELLS you it was the shaft AND other parts, just to save face.