My Colorado Off-Road Adventure - aka Altrider Skid-Plate Carnage!!

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Before starting this, I want to say that my AltRider skid-plate did a GREAT job protecting my Super Tenere. I don't know how others would of fared (except that the Yamaha unit would probably have resulted in damage to the motor).....

It all started on Tuesday, 13 Sept leaving out of Crested Butte, Colorado heading west to the town of Marble. We hit a long dirt road climb out of Crested Butte up to the Paradise divide, over the top at 10,707ft. Then proceeded on to Schofield Pass / Gothic Road intersection and head west to Marble along the Crystal River thru the 'Devils Punchbowl'. Only a distance of 24 miles that ended up taking us (my brother-in-law on his 650 Dakar and my ST) almost 7 hours.

Here is a video of some of this trail....take a look at 3:30 to see how extreme the terrain was (I need a GoPro!)...oh yeah, this is listed as a 'Double Black Diamond' route....

Here is what http://www.atvtrails.org/co/Schofield_Pass.html has to say:

"Schofield Pass starts as an easy road as you ride through an open area with a few houses in it, but quickly turns into one the most difficult and dangerous trails in the State of Colorado." and "The section of trail is know as the Devil's Punch Bowl and is very difficult. Trying to come up this area in the rain was very difficult and very scary. The entire time you are right on the edge of the cliff and one wrong move could be your last. On July 9, 1970 nine people died as their car fell into the punch bowl. "

The terrain is extreme, there were steps 2+ feet in height that we ended up having to walk the bikes down....with 300ft shear drop-off's, boulder's the size of basketballs, steep loose, rocky descents, boulder strewn river crossings (100ft + & 18" deep - running very fast). And more. Much, much more. It was probably the most extreme terrain I have encountered in my 40 years of off-roading. Maybe it not being desert terrain makes it seem much more extreme?

I did things with this bike that Yamaha could only dream of! And the AltRider skid plate took a beating...being dragged over the rock ledges (I wish the ST had a couple of inches more ground clearance), bouncing off large boulders, being wedges between rock outcroppings, etc. The plate prevented damage to the motor!

WHAT A ADVENTURE....(not one that I want to do again, even with my light KTM).
 

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Know what you mean!!

Looks like what us Australians have to do just to get to work each day. :D

Only kidding.

Have you got or looked at Wasp's raising link? Gives you another inch or so I think.

Lucky you weren't traveling with the YAMAHA Stone guard. 8)

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Now onto the Altrider skid plate......I am impressed with how well the skid-plate held up to the abuse it was subjected to. The bike suffered no damage what so ever.

The plate ended up with two major cracked welds, one from a major hit on the bottom of the plate that caused a softball sized dent in the bottom of the skid plate.

The right front corner of the plate took a large hit when descending down a small drop-off and I clipped a rocky outcropping. The hit almost stopped the bike in its tracks (I was doing somewhere around 5 mph). There is a fairly thin bracket on this side of the skid plate that attaches to the motor with two bolts. This bracket bent instead of transferring all the energy to the motor casing (a good thing in my book).

The right side of the skid plate was also crushed up, almost into the headers from the bike going down on a log.

The very back of the skid plate also was slightly bent, along with the very stout mounting bracket.

All damage to the plate was easily fixed by judicious use of a very heavy dead-blow mallet. A couple of hours later the plate was as good as new, but with 'character'. I am going to re-weld the cracked welds, and one thing I noticed is that those areas that were welded inside & out did not crack so I am going to weld all interior seams.
 

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GrahamD said:
Have you got or looked at Wasp's raising link? Gives you another inch or so I think.

Lucky you weren't traveling with the YAMAHA Stone guard. 8)

Cheers
Graham
I am giving serious thought to Wasp's longer links to give the bike a bit more ground clearance. I believe if I had another inch or so of clearance the plate would not have suffered so much!

And I agree, the Yamaha 'stone guard' (it's not a skid plate in my book) would have folded up like a wet noodle....
 

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stevepsd said:
....The terrain is extreme.....WHAT A ADVENTURE....(not one that I want to do again, even with my light KTM).
Good job, that is some serious work to get through that unscathed. ::012::
 

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Ya, that would be pretty tough on a ST. But like all those black diamond 4X4 trails, pretty easy to fly though at many times the speed of the 4X4's on a true dirt bike ::018::
 

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Schofield Pass is just a blast , I have been over it many times. This is one of my favorite shots of it. This was taken on Sheep Mt. with Schofield way below. You can see it down there .
 

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eemsreno said:
Schofield Pass is just a blast , I have been over it many times. This is one of my favorite shots of it. This was taken on Sheep Mt. with Schofield way below. You can see it down there .
Awesome pic!
 

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stevepsd said:
The stock Tourances!
Well, obviously you weren't aware that Moto USA rates the S10 worst in the off road portion of their comparo...even worse than the Multi Strada ;) That you dared to take such a weak off-road machine into Multi Strada territory with the stock tourances is even more shocking. ??? Good thing you hadn't read that article first :D ::26:: (/Sacasm off)

Seriously though, that is testament enough for me regarding this bike's off road prowess. I thought maybe you had fitted some TKC's. Good work!
 

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Never been down the Crested Butte side for obvious reasons (sure you didn't want a TW for that :D ) The marble side of the pass and surrounding Lead King Basin (think that is correct) is much more doable for those who want a challenge without the repair bills. Beautiful country all around and lots of history.
 

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Another example of what I expect from any adventure bike. Thanks for a great post and especially the ALT Rider piece. But did you ride up or down the waterfall? ::008::
 

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switchback said:
Never been down the Crested Butte side for obvious reasons (sure you didn't want a TW for that :D ) The marble side of the pass and surrounding Lead King Basin (think that is correct) is much more doable for those who want a challenge without the repair bills. Beautiful country all around and lots of history.
We ran out of time to do the Lead King Basin (just east of Marble for those of you who want to know) as that is supposed to be pretty nice area as well, just a *bit* less extreme. However we ran into a gent who was riding a Triumph Tiger 855 (or a 955 - can't remember) who got only a mile into Lead King Basin before cracking his sump wide open (no skid plate) on a small rock step.

Next time I'll make sure to have time to hit his area!
 

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nondairycreamer said:
Another example of what I expect from any adventure bike. Thanks for a great post and especially the ALT Rider piece. But did you ride up or down the waterfall? ::008::
Down! You would get to wet trying to ride up >:D

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Tremor38 said:
Well, obviously you weren't aware that Moto USA rates the S10 worst in the off road portion of their comparo...even worse than the Multi Strada ;) That you dared to take such a weak off-road machine into Multi Strada territory with the stock tourances is even more shocking. ??? Good thing you hadn't read that article first :D ::26:: (/Sacasm off)

Seriously though, that is testament enough for me regarding this bike's off road prowess. I thought maybe you had fitted some TKC's. Good work!
Yep I am glad to know that the ST is simply awful off-road as my 'adventure' so amply points out!

I was surprised at how well the Tourances did. On the portions of the trail that were dirt, the Tourances we not all that bad, a bit slippery. There was one small section of very loose sandy soil...they sucked in that...no bite what so ever.

A couple of days we went up and over Cottonwood pass, which is all dirt on the west side - around 16 miles worth. There was a driving sleet/rain/hail storm that turned the dirt into a soupy mess. The Tourances were almost like riding on marbles - very loose until I aired them down to around 22psi front/28psi rear then they were just ok.

I think a set of K60's are in my future.
 

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stevepsd said:
Yep I am glad to know that the ST is simply awful off-road as my 'adventure' so amply points out!

I was surprised at how well the Tourances did. On the portions of the trail that were dirt, the Tourances we not all that bad, a bit slippery. There was one small section of very loose sandy soil...they sucked in that...no bite what so ever.

A couple of days we went up and over Cottonwood pass, which is all dirt on the west side - around 16 miles worth. There was a driving sleet/rain/hail storm that turned the dirt into a soupy mess. The Tourances were almost like riding on marbles - very loose until I aired them down to around 22psi front/28psi rear then they were just ok.

I think a set of K60's are in my future.
Yep, those K60's are starting to sound like 'the cat's meow.' I may have to get couple of those mounted before my next trip to Hokkaido. 8)
 

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WOW Steve......nice write-up about an awesome adventure........ ::012::
 

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Just to back you up on how dangerous Schofield pass is,, here is a picture I found. Yes that is Eric , so it must be about 15 years old. This was taken heading east on the way to the pass.
 

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eemsreno said:
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Just to back you up on how dangerous Schofield pass is,, here is a picture I found. Yes that is Eric , so it must be about 15 years old. This was taken heading east on the way to the pass.
Neat pic.

What bike is that? I noticed the trails-tire on the back. Thats about we had back then for a on/off-road road tire. Times sure have changed!

-steve
 
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