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Really? I am very surprised by this reply. When you say “mileage”, do you mean fuel consumption or the sheer number of miles passing under your wheels? Here in UK and Europe, the national speed limits are between 70mph and 83mph, (130kph), apart from a few autobahns in Germany where, for now at least, you are able to legally exceed 83mph.
For my part, I simply set the cruise control for between 75 and 85mph depending on road, traffic and weather conditions and sit back and enjoy the ride. I really like the FJR and think it is a very accomplished and capable sports tourer, but higher speeds mean increased fuel consumption, increased concentration and less opportunity to simply enjoy the ride, and the ride, surely, is what it’s all about.
The Super Tenere is capable of just about anything you can throw at it, 1-up, 2-up, loaded with luggage or simply ridden for the hell of it, it can do it all. No, it will never beat a 180bhp sports bike around a track or a Gold Wing on a long haul road trip, but it will do a track day or a road trip with ease and some degree of comfort and on your way from A to B, you will be glad you chose your S10.
When you say, it won't beat a Gold Wing on a long haul road trip. What do you mean? In terms of comfort, fuel consumption?
because right now I do long hauls with my voyager 1700 and i understood that the super tenere was designed for long haul ? I would hate to get one and find i'm very uncomfortable on those 600km/day rides.
 

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When you say, it won't beat a Gold Wing on a long haul road trip. What do you mean? In terms of comfort, fuel consumption?
because right now I do long hauls with my voyager 1700 and i understood that the super tenere was designed for long haul ? I would hate to get one and find i'm very uncomfortable on those 600km/day rides.
I think he is referring to comfort. Stock seat vs. stock seat, the Gold Wing wins. That said, the right aftermarket seat makes this bike as comfortable for the long haul days. I have a Russell Day Long seat for touring and I have done 10 hour days very minimal discomfort (only in the last 2 hours) and anything around 500 mile days or less is a breeze.
Can't say that for the stock seat.

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When you say, it won't beat a Gold Wing on a long haul road trip. What do you mean? In terms of comfort, fuel consumption?
because right now I do long hauls with my voyager 1700 and i understood that the super tenere was designed for long haul ? I would hate to get one and find i'm very uncomfortable on those 600km/day rides.
Yes, the S10 is certainly built for the “long haul”, but the Gold Wing is a totally different beast for solo or 2-up touring. On a scale of 1 to 10 for comfort over distance, the Gold Wing would be a 10, the S10 (IMHO) would be an 8. Just remember, my experience will not be the same as yours, what I rate as supremely comfortable may not be acceptable to you. The Gold Wing is designed and built for one thing and that is long distance touring, the S10 is a real Swiss Army knife of a motorcycle, it may not excel at just one thing, but it it will probably be 85-90% overall.
 

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What he said. The Tenere can do anything. The 'Wing is a purpose-built bike. (didn't start that way though) And its purpose is eating miles. Easily and comfortably. Back in the day, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawi tried taking a share of the long-distance market. And they made good bikes. But after the smoke had cleared, the 'Wing was king. And in my opinion, still is. (up until '18 anyway. Not to sure about the latest version)

But if there's no pavement at the end of your trip, the Tenere is your bike. My favorite ever.
 

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"Comfort" is a very subjective thing.
Everybody is different when it comes to which bikes they are more comfortable on.

Myself...........I can do multiple 600-mile days on my Super-tenere. Have done it in the recent past.
I have the factory-stock Seat on mine, and I'm perfectly fine with it...........Others are not, and they hate it. Many have switched to an aftermarket touring seat to get more comfort.

Some people are most comfortable on a "Cruiser" style bike.............I am NOT. I cannot stand the riding position with my arms and legs stretched out in front of me, with all my body weight on my tailbone.
I need my feet and legs directly underneath me to adjust riding positions often on longer rides.

To each their own..........

You will definitely be impressed by the acceleration of the S10, especially compared to the Voyager......
 

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1) The bike has ample power, its a train
2) On the highway it tracks like its on rails and also does extremely well in the twisties
3) Moto camping I think this bike would be a 10/10
4) Comfort - I have a 2022 ES model and have done numerous of 8-11 hour rides and my first 2 days to Newfoundland this summer will be long days: the ES suspension / stock seat and riding position are amazing.
5) I had a 2019 V-Strom 1000 prior to this bike and its night and day
6) The stock shield is not bad but I have a Madstad and which helps during long trips

My 2 cents get a ES model - cruise control + shaft drive are KING
 

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There are plenty of used Super Teneres around, so I think the only way you'll answer your own question is to try one.
We have a lot of long distance people here; I'm on my second and have been to the four corners.

You won't do this with the Venture or a Wing.
You have not moto camped with my friend and i :) . He with his 2008 goldwing and my Voyager 1700 have been into places like the above. Driven through puddles where water comes up to our mid shins.
 

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To the OP. I went from a Honda 919 naked sport bike putting down similar HP / Tq numbers as the S10 (~110hp to the rear wheel and ~65-70ftlbs) and 100lbs LIGHTER to a 2015 ES S10 that I just got the Anthony flash done. I am faster in the twisties on the S10 BY FAR due to the extra suspension, abs and TC, extra leverage of the wide bars and weight down low it honestly feels more "flickable" from left to right... and my 919 has upgraded front forks, ohlins rear shock etc. In a straight line the 919 is a ROCKETSHIP but by golly the S10 puts a BIG smile on my face with how the power comes on and hasnt left me going ugh its "under powered". No it doesnt want to keep climbing past 80mph the way the sport bike does... but how often thats NEEDED is so rare that it isnt a concern. I still have the 919 and a lil Grom that was my typical around town errands bike. The 919 and Grom havent been ridden in quite some time even for around town errands cus the S10 is so fun.

Outdoor

1) The bike has ample power, its a train
2) On the highway it tracks like its on rails and also does extremely well in the twisties
3) Moto camping I think this bike would be a 10/10
4) Comfort - I have a 2022 ES model and have done numerous of 8-11 hour rides and my first 2 days to Newfoundland this summer will be long days: the ES suspension / stock seat and riding position are amazing.
5) I had a 2019 V-Strom 1000 prior to this bike and its night and day
6) The stock shield is not bad but I have a Madstad and which helps during long trips

My 2 cents get a ES model - cruise control + shaft drive are KING

How tall are you and what size Madstad sheild did you end up with?
 

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To the OP. I went from a Honda 919 naked sport bike putting down similar HP / Tq numbers as the S10 (~110hp to the rear wheel and ~65-70ftlbs) and 100lbs LIGHTER to a 2015 ES S10 that I just got the Anthony flash done. I am faster in the twisties on the S10 BY FAR due to the extra suspension, abs and TC, extra leverage of the wide bars and weight down low it honestly feels more "flickable" from left to right... and my 919 has upgraded front forks, ohlins rear shock etc. In a straight line the 919 is a ROCKETSHIP but by golly the S10 puts a BIG smile on my face with how the power comes on and hasnt left me going ugh its "under powered". No it doesnt want to keep climbing past 80mph the way the sport bike does... but how often thats NEEDED is so rare that it isnt a concern. I still have the 919 and a lil Grom that was my typical around town errands bike. The 919 and Grom havent been ridden in quite some time even for around town errands cus the S10 is so fun.




How tall are you and what size Madstad sheild did you end up with?
ND4 - i will have to look into this for you: but my last two purchases where done using their calculating procedure go their web site very simple, you will need an assistant to follow their procedure. Both times I got it right size previously on my VStrom and last summer on the T12 and you can always give them a call if you need any help regarding sizing !
 

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. . . . I am faster in the twisties on the S10 BY FAR due to the extra suspension, abs and TC, extra leverage of the wide bars and weight down low it honestly feels more "flickable" from left to right...
Blasphemy! "She's not a sport bike". At least that's what I've been told. I'm with you on your opinion, but a while back I posted that she does a good impression of a sportbike. I was quickly told that I was very wrong. I was given reasons why I was wrong. But . . . . for the exact reasons that you posted, I still believe she's easier to ride on a twistie road than some sportbike, or at the very least sport tourers. She's my favorite bike ever.
 

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ND4 - i will have to look into this for you: but my last two purchases where done using their calculating procedure go their web site very simple, you will need an assistant to follow their procedure. Both times I got it right size previously on my VStrom and last summer on the T12 and you can always give them a call if you need any help regarding sizing !
Thanks Ill look into it on their site, just wanted a real world review with specs on you vs shield height too!

Blasphemy! "She's not a sport bike". At least that's what I've been told. I'm with you on your opinion, but a while back I posted that she does a good impression of a sportbike. I was quickly told that I was very wrong. I was given reasons why I was wrong. But . . . . for the exact reasons that you posted, I still believe she's easier to ride on a twistie road than some sportbike, or at the very least sport tourers. She's my favorite bike ever.
On a track or very smooth properly paved road, no doubt I could be quicker on the 919/sport bike especially if it wasnt super tight. But down here in southern ca in the malibu hills with roads that are nice but ungulate and arent smooth and very tight. Hands down the tenere wins. Then you get to the PCH and can cruise in comfort.
 

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nd4 - just checked I bought a 22'' shield (obviously with the bracket system for the T12) and I'm nearly 5'10''. I see over the shield not through it, FYI my previous shield was a 20'' on the VStrom (not sure if this is relevant) also when I got the shield i set it at the lowest setting and i since have brought it up slightly towards the end of the summer by +/- 5/16''. When your ready to pull the trigger follow their instructions and don't hesitate to call them if your between measurements !
 

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I'm seriously considering changing to this bike. I do moto camping and feel this would be a good bike. I currently have a 2018 Kawasaki Voyager 1700 that has been upgraded pipes, air intake, ivanized, racetech fork springs and Ohlins shocks.

When i hear people say the Super Tenere 1200 ES is underpowered, I'm curious how it would compare to what I'm used to. I think perhaps they are comparing to faster sportier bikes? I feel a good pull on my voyager and i get only 5.5s 0-60mph. The S10 claims 3.2s. So the pull must be pretty good. The S10 is like 310lbs lighter than my voyager.

My other question is, how is the highway passing? Does it still have good power to pass?
I went from a vstar 1300 with a mustang seat and touring bars, which is liquid cooled and pretty quick for a 1300. I'd guess it is pretty comparable to the performance of your voyager. The S10 definitely has a lot more passing power on the highway and it definitely feels like the more powerful bike. The other big advantage is the handling. When you get off the highway there aren't any cruisers that will be as fun as the Tenere is in the twisties. Adventure bikes are definitely a different style of riding but once I got used to it I feel more comfortable and less fatigued after a long ride. I still have the vstar because I couldn't part with it. After 65000 miles I've grown to love it and its not worth enough to bother selling. Truth is it isn't getting much ride time since I got the S10 and if I know I'm riding all day I wouldn't even consider taking the star.
 

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I just sold my R1200CL on Sunday, and that is a very underpowered bike. 61 HP and almost 700 lbs. of wet weight was not all that inspiring and a dousing with holy water is required if you want to haul a passenger over a mountain pass. The KTM 1190R I sold last year had the opposite problem where 150 horsepower and ADV tires don't make a lot of sense. A local friend and I rented a Multi and a S-10 for a day last year to help narrow things down. I couldn't imagine riding a long distance with the riding position on the Multi!
 

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I think with long distances its more about the avg speed you want to do. Tje faster you go the more the screen will come into play. I think the Madstad bracket would be my first mod on that, then if still not happy look at a screen. Seat wise Airhawk does a great job and Moto Skivis are great and much cheaper than a new seat.
 

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If I out for the day off road on FSR I can easily ride for hours and never become uncomfortable or even tired, I can rack up 12-14hr ride.
But on pavement a long haul becomes a little tiresome, simply because of the increase speeds and seat time. I wear Motos Skivis on those long hauls, with the OE seat I stay very comfortable.
I find a lot of riders including myself get neck and shoulder pains while doing long hauls mostly on tarmac type riding but not so much off road.
Having good posture helps a lot, many after a long time will slouch so the use of a gut belt can help with that but also not wearing a pack, like camel pack for example.
I ride a lot with other ADV riders and more than the majority who suffered with neck/should pains where the ones wearing packs. IMO let the bike carry the weight, 99.9% of the people riding the S10 on this forum are not racing Baja, so why stress your back.
There are a lot of aftermarket replacements that will make the S10 somewhat more comfy but a lot of that falls on you and what you do.
Like mentioned above, being in poor shape and not supporting ones self by slouching, wearing unnecessary weight like a pack all contribute to having the type of ride you will have and how you will enjoy the S10. The Tenere is not a rolling sofa, so don't expect that type of comfort.
 
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