Left the key on...oops

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So I reset my trip computer and walked away, the key left on.
Stone cold dead this morning and will have to recharge the battery. It came from the dealer with a "tender" lead already installed, its a two prong clip-on type.
What kind of charger does it need and how many amps etc. is it going to take?
I dont want to take the battery out or disassemble anything unless I have to.
I'll do some research and ask the dealership but there it sits.
 

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It appears that there are a couple different types of two prong clips, so I will have to make sure I get the right one that fits. (oviously)
 

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As a sidenote to this thread. I put my ST on an Interstate (Deltran) tender and was away for a month. The tender never switched to the "float" mode and cooked the battery. Interstate offered no concession other than an attitude. Anyone have any ideas how to test Tenders?

I want to make it clear that I have used Deltran Battery Tenders forever without problems. Perhaps Interstate gets seconds. I'd avoid those marketed by them.

In any case, new battery, no problems.
 

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Charging always makes me nervous. I never leave even the little battery tender unattended for long. Friend of mine burned his boat and nearly his house to the ground using an automatic charger in his driveway.
 

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I've left my motorbikes on a BatteryTender for weeks/months at a time without any ill side effects.

That plug is an SAE male/female plug. I use the same plug for tending as I do for electrifying my tank bag.

Sal-lick

Get cha a Battery Tender and let the charging commence.
 

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There are good chargers out there. There is a big difference between a trickle charger and a maintenance charger though. I use an Optimate III, (they have Optimate IV and Vs now too), that has a built in de-sulfate routine it will run if, after testing, it determines it's needed. I used this charger for 8 years on my FJR and the original battery was still going strong when I sold the bike. Religiously plugged it in after every ride. It only went into de-sulfating mode twice that I know of, the first time I used it when the bike was 3 months old and once about 6 months before I sold the bike.

I'm not as religious about using it on the S10 because I ride a lot and don't have as good a parking spot for the S10 near an outlet, but have wired it up for easy plug in.

If you get a Battery Tender brand, get one of the better ones, not the bottom of the line cheapies. They last longer and some have different charging routines so they can do a better job on AGM batteries.
 

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Contact your dealer and ask what lead they installed.
 

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SisuTen said:
As a sidenote to this thread. I put my ST on an Interstate (Deltran) tender and was away for a month. The tender never switched to the "float" mode and cooked the battery. Interstate offered no concession other than an attitude. Anyone have any ideas how to test Tenders?

I want to make it clear that I have used Deltran Battery Tenders forever without problems. Perhaps Interstate gets seconds. I'd avoid those marketed by them.

In any case, new battery, no problems.
Could you have been a victim of the 'cloned' Battery-Tenders that are on the market?

Here is what is on the Deltran/Battery-Tender site:

To our loyal customers:
If you do not see our Battery Tender® registered logo or Deltran on the charger you could be the victim of a “bait and switch” scheme!

Please be aware that there are a few new “knockoffs” who are pretending to be Battery Tender® chargers. The chargers are, in our opinion, inferior in operation and quality! We recently started the litigation process which is not only expensive but very time consuming.

Deltran is a forty-seven year old family owned and operated business that prides itself on innovation and customer service. We will not allow another company to try to destroy our registered brand and fine reputation. We are the first to realize that competition makes us all better but stealing someone else’s brand is not the way to compete!

Thank You,
Michael L. Prelec Sr.
CEO
 

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Done deal, got it juiced up , started and on the tender. The Battery Tender plugged right in perfectly. I was impressed at how easily accessible the battery is.
4 Quarter turns and it is wide open, VERY easy. What a good design.
 

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jettcity1 said:
Done deal, got it juiced up , started and on the tender. The Battery Tender plugged right in perfectly. I was impressed at how easily accessible the battery is.
4 Quarter turns and it is wide open, VERY easy. What a good design.
Very cool you got it going. Leaving the key in the ignition is a carry over from your Connie days. I leave my key in my ST all the time cause I am so used to the C14 fob in my pocket.
 

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I did buy the Deltran original "Batter Tender" and it worked perfectly as advertised. Got the blinking green light first thing in the morning and My S10 is all better now.
I will confess, leaving it in and walking away was a C-14 thing. I need to break myself of the 'Connie habits as that transponder is no longer in the picture here.
My dealership has the Deltran's, these are good products.
 

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jettcity1 said:
I will confess, leaving it in and walking away was a C-14 thing. I need to break myself of the 'Connie habits as that transponder is no longer in the picture here.
I need to break the same habit. I've come out to the bike after leaving it all day at work and found the key still in the ignition. Good thing I have a secured lot I can park the bike in...
 

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I need to break the same habit. I've come out to the bike after leaving it all day at work and found the key still in the ignition. Good thing I have a secured lot I can park the bike in...
Just wondering.. how do you do this....stop the motor with the kill switch and not the ignition switch?

In my 40+ years of riding the only bikes that I routinely used the kill switch on were my old 2-stroke race bikes....that didn't have a switch, or if we were lazy we would pop the clutch to kill it....
 

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Just wondering.. how do you do this....stop the motor with the kill switch and not the ignition switch?

In my 40+ years of riding the only bikes that I routinely used the kill switch on were my old 2-stroke race bikes....that didn't have a switch, or if we were lazy we would pop the clutch to kill it....
On the C14 (Kawasaki Concours 14) you can turn off the engine with the engine cut off (kill) switch. You then turn the key to the "off" position but leave the key in the bike, as the transponder has to be within a certain distance of the bike for it to start. I keep the transponder in my pants pocket. Of course you can also turn off the engine, and everything else, but turning the key to "off" but C14 users still leave the key in it.

C14 users get in the lazy habit of leaving the key in the bike. Not good for the ST. As far as leaving it in the "on" position, I am sure the OP will admit that was a dumb mistake compounded by a habit developed by C14 riding. I would be lying if I said I have not left my duty bike key in the "on" position and walked away from it. The fan kicking on as I walk away is my reminder of what an idiot I can be.
 

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Man-o-man, what will they think of next...heated grips & seats! :D :D

So, help me out here, whats the advantage of the transponder? Do you still need the ignition switch turned on or not to start the bike when the transponder is in range?
 

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stevepsd said:
Man-o-man, what will they think of next...heated grips & seats! :D :D

So, help me out here, whats the advantage of the transponder? Do you still need the ignition switch turned on or not to start the bike when the transponder is in range?
Yes, the key still needs to be turned to the "on" position. It's a big key too, kind of goofy. :) I am not sure what advantage the transponder provides to be honest with you, unless it enhances security by not allowing it to be started if stolen by a tow truck or something.

And yes, it has heated grips. :)
 

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stevepsd said:
Just wondering.. how do you do this....stop the motor with the kill switch and not the ignition switch?

In my 40+ years of riding the only bikes that I routinely used the kill switch on were my old 2-stroke race bikes....that didn't have a switch, or if we were lazy we would pop the clutch to kill it....
I turn the key off to stop the bike. But, as mentioned, the C14 key stayed in the ignition, so I very rarely removed it. The ignition on the work bike works the same way too. Just turn the ignition to off and walk away.
 

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stevepsd said:
Could you have been a victim of the 'cloned' Battery-Tenders that are on the market?

Here is what is on the Deltran/Battery-Tender site:

To our loyal customers:
If you do not see our Battery Tender® registered logo or Deltran on the charger you could be the victim of a “bait and switch” scheme!

Please be aware that there are a few new “knockoffs” who are pretending to be Battery Tender® chargers. The chargers are, in our opinion, inferior in operation and quality! We recently started the litigation process which is not only expensive but very time consuming.

Deltran is a forty-seven year old family owned and operated business that prides itself on innovation and customer service. We will not allow another company to try to destroy our registered brand and fine reputation. We are the first to realize that competition makes us all better but stealing someone else’s brand is not the way to compete!

Thank You,
Michael L. Prelec Sr.
CEO
It's possible, but unlikely with Interstate. Dimensionally, it's identical. I'd have to fish it out of the trash to find deltran on it. I personally will look for a deal but will not knowingly buy trash. As I indicated, I'm finished dealing with Interstate on any level. Fortunately, I have three Detran units on my shelf.
 
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