LEDs in the Super Tenere Projectors.

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I want to start this off by saying LEDs in projectors have several things that prevent them from being better than halogens or HIDs. With that being said I don't think that means that LEDs can't be a good option for certain projects as long as you have reasonable expectations. Why I decided in trying LEDs was partially because of seeing the success other members had with a certain led in the super tenere housing so I knew what I was getting partially, also because I knew that typically LEDs have much longer life span than the halogen and if it did fail I could get a new halogen bulb anywhere easily and not have the HID setup to deal with.
Okay with that out of the way we can get to some details and some pictures.

LEDs are Oxilam H7 mini 6500 kelvin. My opinion is 6500k is too cool but that's all I could get. Ideally 4500-5500 is best IMO. These bulbs are plug and play (sort of) and do not require modification to the housing or special caps. To get these bulbs installed correctly I did have to lightly file the tab to get it to fit flat and aimed correctly but this literally took less than a minute per side. The goal is to get the chips facing horizontally or lady to right. If you just drop the bulb in with the tabs it will be at a 45° angle.
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Below you can see a single halogen projector. Notice how much light you get from the cutoff down.
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Now below we have a single LED correctly aimed. Notice the scatter below the cut off and less light below the cut off. While this isn't ideal this isn't too bad and the fact the cut off itself is nice a even is most important.
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Below is an example of the LED incorrectly installed. Notice the severe hot spot and uneven light pattern across the cut off.
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If you look at the pattern in this shot you can get a visual in what the direction of the chip looks like and how it creates a hot spot on the top left of the lense.
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This is the low beam with both LEDs installed correctly.
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And this is the high beam with both LEDs correctly installed.
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All in all I believe that these are brighter and will overall work better for me. HIDs are better but these LEDs were 35 bikes and to my door in a day. I think that the cut off is too low on the ST headlight and I show to aim the bulb based on the high beam and I plan to use aux lights to give the low beam better forward projection.
 
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I want to start this off by saying LEDs in projectors have several things that prevent them from being better than halogens or HIDs. With that being said I don't think that means that LEDs can't be a good option for certain projects as long as you have reasonable expectations. Why I decided in trying LEDs was partially because of seeing the success other members had with a certain led in the super tenere housing so I knew what I was getting partially, also because I knew that typically LEDs have much longer life span than the halogen and if it did fail I could get a new halogen bulb anywhere easily and not have the HID setup to deal with.
Okay with that out of the way we can get to some details and some pictures.

LEDs are Oxilam H7 mini 6500 kelvin. My opinion is 6500k is too cool but that's all I could get. Ideally 4500-5500 is best IMO. These bulbs are plug and play (sort of) and do not require modification to the housing or special caps. To get these bulbs installed correctly I did have to lightly file the tab to get it to fit flat and aimed correctly but this literally took less than a minute per side. The goal is to get the chips facing horizontally or lady to right. If you just drop the bulb in with the tabs it will be at a 45° angle.
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Below you can see a single halogen projector. Notice how much light you get from the cutoff down.
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Now below we have a single LED correctly aimed. Notice the scatter below the cut off and less light below the cut off. While this isn't ideal this isn't too bad and the fact the cut off itself is nice a even is most important.
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Below is an example of the LED incorrectly installed. Notice the severe hot spot and uneven light pattern across the cut off.
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If you look at the pattern in this shot you can get a visual in what the direction of the chip looks like and how it creates a hot spot on the top left of the lense.
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This is the low beam with both LEDs installed correctly.
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And this is the high beam with both leads correctly installed.
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Night shotsView attachment 105270View attachment 105271

All in all I believe that these are brighter and will overall work better for me. HIDs are better but these LEDs were 35 bikes and to my door in a day. I think that the cut off is too low on the ST headlight and I show to aim the bulb based on the high beam and I plan to use aux lights to give the low beam better forward projection.
Much brighter than stock. They did have 6000k too. Looks good.
 

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Chav, are these the ones you used?



There are quite a few Oxilam H7 6500K LED bulbs on Amazon; tough to tell which one would be best. I did see a 6000K one also; do you think that would be a better choice?



I don't know diddly about LED lights, but I just replaced the 10th halogen bulb in the S10 since 2014, and they're over 20 bucks each.
 

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Better to use a maximum of 6000K (Kelvin) as the colour spectrum starts to head into ultra Violet after that & you get less light.
This is true, but I didn't buy the other type because I was wasn't 100% sure they would for because the bulb type is slightly different. I think 5k is my favorite of lighting. Add a 2500k fog light and you can see very well
 

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Chav, are these the ones you used?



There are quite a few Oxilam H7 6500K LED bulbs on Amazon; tough to tell which one would be best. I did see a 6000K one also; do you think that would be a better choice?



I don't know diddly about LED lights, but I just replaced the 10th halogen bulb in the S10 since 2014, and they're over 20 bucks each.
I used the first one because I knew it would fit. You can try the second one and do the forum a favor with your independent testing haha. I might try the 6k to see if they work as well since it's a different design.
 

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I’m yet to crank up the 3D printer again & do up a set of deeper cups since putting in new LED bulbs.
There’s also a set made by Narva here that have the attachment at 90 degrees for a lower profile connection. $99 is a bit rich to buy them to test though.

 

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I went with 360° LEDs that seem to replicate the pattern of halogen with the brightness and color of LED. Minimal pattern blackout.
3 years and 40kmi going strong. Amazon Shengda. Not sure they are still available, but similar ones are.

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I’m yet to crank up the 3D printer again & do up a set of deeper cups since putting in new LED bulbs.
There’s also a set made by Narva here that have the attachment at 90 degrees for a lower profile connection. $99 is a bit rich to buy them to test though.

These bulbs do not require special caps. This is one of the reasons I went with them.
 

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I went with 360° LEDs that seem to replicate the pattern of halogen with the brightness and color of LED. Minimal pattern blackout.
3 years and 40kmi going strong. Amazon Shengda. Not sure they are still available, but similar ones are.

Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk
I was having a hard time finding multi directional ones for this application. Easy and cheap enough to change though.
 

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Chav, thanks for this post and showing the slight mod to the light that was required.
I just did the install with the same set, took less than 10 minutes.
A really good improvement for the cost.
No problem.. glad it worked out for you.
 

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Thread moved to the appropriate sub-forum where all the previous LED light threads already reside.
 
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