Longdog Cymru
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Do you mean the Honda ST1300 Pan European? It’s been around for years!Think that's bad, just wait till a new ST1300 comes out!
Do you mean the Honda ST1300 Pan European? It’s been around for years!Think that's bad, just wait till a new ST1300 comes out!
They could call it something catchy, like Tracer. Oh, they already have one!If Yamaha updated the engine to a triple, and added more whiz-bang electronics, and chopped the weight down, and invested a whole lot of money into other changes, then I doubt they'd call the bike a "Super Tenere", since it would basically be a new bike. I don't think they'd want to saddle the new bike with the name of an old bike that, in all reality, probably hasn't been a big seller for Yamaha.
My guess is that Yamaha has made just enough money on the S10 to keep it in production, but not enough to make it worthwhile to do a lot of upgrading. The popularity of the S10's little brother probably makes it even less likely that you'll see any changes to the Super Tenere.
That sounds horrible. I experienced my hill hold once. That sucker got shut off as soon as that ride ended. Probably good for a new rider, but as an old timer, I could not tolerate it.Hill start assist that doesn't work and cannot be shut off.
Yes and despite the ridiculous, engine-to-rider heat transfer, the bike is awesome and has a loyal following. An update might be as "good" as the 18+ GW.Do you mean the Honda ST1300 Pan European? It’s been around for years!
I owned two ST1300s over an 9 year period, they are lovely bikes and hide their weight well once moving and, I think, they were at least as good as the FJR Yamaha.Yes and despite the ridiculous, engine-to-rider heat transfer, the bike is awesome and has a loyal following. An update might be as "good" as the 18+ GW.
They suffered from Honda's strange preference for not putting cruise control on its touring bikes or updating them. The FJR was updated numerous times and eventually got cruise control, electronic suspension, LED lighting and so on. The ST1300 remained the same throughout its run. Shame because the V4 is a great motor. Honda did the same with its VFR1200X.I owned two ST1300s over an 9 year period, they are lovely bikes and hide their weight well once moving and, I think, they were at least as good as the FJR Yamaha.
Don't believe all the hater comments on the new Goldwing. The hill asset problem is uncommon and it's the light that has stuck on in those cases. You do not have to use it at all if you prefer. I have a 2018 Goldwing along with my Tenere and it has been flawless . All the other issues listed are also uncommon.That sounds horrible. I experienced my hill hold once. That sucker got shut off as soon as that ride ended. Probably good for a new rider, but as an old timer, I could not tolerate it.
What's the beef with the twin? I think it's a perfect adv engine.yup get rid of the crazy twin cylinder engine, better headlights , better gearing, better paint job, it will be interesting.
Few updates on a long production run also means better aftermarket, and better oem parts availability both new and used.Personally i like the S10 basically as is, there are plenty of other bikes out there to satisfy the need of other taste.
If you start changing everything then its no longer a Super Tenere and its reputation no longer applies. Some people like my self purchased the S10 based on its reputation and not so much the gadgets, i had a gadget 2 wheeler GS, its now gone thank goodness.
There is always room for improvement but a fine line in a complete make over were its no longer the same bike.
I would like to see small changes, like better performance mods, abs deactivation capable and adventure ready. Like out of the box bike protection installed. The only big change i would like is a complete revamped on the OEM panniers.
I do agree on LED lighting but i have no issues with the current lighting. Remember the S10 is an adventure bike and the more fancy you make it the more $$$$ it will cost when you drop it on your adventure plus when your out on an adventure good luck being able to fix it if it in the field when it goes down with so much fancy chit on it. Simplicity is what i like about the Super T.
Yamaha's Super Tenere is the real deal in ADV motorcycles in every way for world travel. Some of your need to take heed of the famous KLR 650 as a ADV bike, yes old in tech but probably the #1 chosen world traveler because its simple and reliable and cheap to own.
The last thing we want is to become like the BMW GS, expensive and problematic, then turned back when it goes down cause no shop can work on it other then a BMW dealer.
Absolutely my thoughts too. I get that everybody has their personal preferences. I've never been the fastest, strongest, or smartest. . . . and I don't need my bike to be. I did show up to work everyday. . . . and I expect my bike to also.Personally i like the S10 basically as is, . . . . If you start changing everything then its no longer a Super Tenere . . . . Remember the S10 is an adventure bike and the more fancy you make it the more $$$$ it will cost . . . .take heed of the famous KLR 650 as a ADV bike, yes old in tech but probably the #1 chosen world traveler because its simple and reliable and cheap to own.
The last thing we want is to become like the BMW GS, . . . .
If my naming hypothesis is correct. . . . that would be called the T10. It also should also silence the power junkies. They switched the FJ from chain to shaft with the FJR, so it's not like that's unheard of.I'd be happy with a 1000cc T7 with a shaft drive, cruise . . . .
Agree. I also have a 2018 GW.Don't believe all the hater comments on the new Goldwing. The hill asset problem is uncommon and it's the light that has stuck on in those cases. You do not have to use it at all if you prefer. I have a 2018 Goldwing along with my Tenere and it has been flawless . All the other issues listed are also uncommon.