Isolating and Disabling Rear ABS

kbrian

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[Rant disguised as a disclaimer]
Allow me to begin by saying that this is intended to be a technical discussion of the feasibility of modifying the rear brake system. To the best of my knowledge and searching, this has not been covered. What has been covered is how much some people love the ABS on this bike, and I would agree that the front ABS is a godsend. I grew up riding dirt bikes and observed trials, and there are times that my S10 gets put into service as a very heavy version of one of those, and one thing I want it to do when engaged in those activities is lock the rear wheel.
I'm also comfortable with the rear wheel locking at other times. I don't really want the rear to start sliding in a hard stop, but it's happened on other bikes, I modulated or otherwise adjusted, and I'm still here.
That said, there has never been a time where I thought "Boy, I sure wish the front would have locked up" or "Yep, the front locking up really saved my butt back there." So I would like to keep the front ABS very much intact for all riding conditions.

[technical discussion]
To permanently disable the ABS, my thought is to take the brake hose that runs to the ABS unit under the seat and run that hose directly to the rear brake caliper, ditching the hose that goes from the ABS unit to the brake, and blocking the rear brake ports on the ABS unit.

My question is: What can/will/might go wrong? My concerns are as follows, listed in no particular order:

1. The ABS unit will exert pressure on the blocking screws that I put into the rear brake ports, causing some kind of catastrophic mechanical malfunction.
2. The ABS unit is smarter than I am, sees through my trickery, and turns itself off, eliminating the ABS for the front as well.
3. There is some kind of reduction, expansion, or other pressure-changing system in the ABS unit that makes the rear master cylinder not ideal to run directly to the rear caliper.
4. Other. I fully recognize that I could not have covered every possible issue that could arise.

So, any thoughts from those with ABS and brake system knowledge? I'm all for experimenting, but when it comes to possibly seeing a malfunction in the front brake at speed, I'm a bit more cautious.
 

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Good post. Well phrased questions. Hoping you get thorough and accurate reply.

Im kinda liking the idea too. But bummed I'd lose linked braking as well. (can't believe I said that. Lol)
 

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I don't posses sufficient technical knowledge to make useful observations kbrian, sorry

However i can relate to your observations regarding the benefits of locking the rear wheel, especially on descents ~ I also spent many years trialling.

I ride my S10 only on the highway now so can only see positive benefits of ABS

Good luck with your search for opinion and advice, I'm sure someone who can help will be along soon ...I'll be watching with interest
 

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martin_nj said:
If you want to start messing around, disconnect the rear wheel's speed sensor and stomp on the front brake on some soft grass and see what happens.
I could be wrong, but that would simply create an ABS error and result in the disabling of ABS entirely. As well as Traction Control.
 

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I disabled my ABS pump when it failed by removing the hose from the foot master to the pump and hooking the hose from the pump that goes to the rear brake cylinder right to the foot master. It's very clean and easy to do.
I thought about trying to leave the front brakes ABS but ended up just bypassing the pump for the front also. I didn’t need that failing thousands of miles from home , rear brakes failing is one thing, no fronts are another.
I would think though that what you said would work, just put bolts in the pump where you removed the rear hoses. I would think that when you apply the front brake then it will just think that you have already applied the foot brake first. If it doesn't work as planned it is easy to put back.
My brakes work unbelievably good now.

Steve
 

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Steve's ABS is less "disabled" than it is "bypassed".
But, same result. :)
 
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