Is This Tyre Wear Common

[wal054]

I have Michelan Anakee Adventure tyres installed on my S10 & have travelled 8,000 km. The tyres look as if I might get another 2,000 km, if I am lucky. I nearly always travel with a pillion & all up body weight about 200 kg, plus fully loaded with luggage. Roads used include major highways & secondary roads and travel at the speed limit or thereabouts. Fuel consumption is approx 4.6 to 5.1 L/100 km. Roads have always been sealed. Trip lengths are typically 1,500 to 4,500 km. Temps range fom less than 0 to mid 40+ Celsius. I obtained 19,000 km out of the Bridgestone OEM tyres in the same condition.

Is this sort of wear rate common for the loads and road conditions described?

 

[fac191]

There is alot of Silica in tires now for better grip. Doesnt seem to last as long though. Most i have had out of a rear is 5,000 mls, least is 2,000 mls. Fronts about 5 to 7,000 mls.

 

[Muybig]

My 2 cents - tire pressure is important in regards to wear: Following my recent install of another set of Bridgestone OEM BW 51 the mechanic I deal with told me to increase my tire pressure by 3PSI he's a very good mechanic and also races on the weekends so i trust his input.

I have about 7 K KM's on the new set and they will probably do another 7 K KM FYI i have a Fobo Bike 2 set of TPMS and keep my tires at 36 PSI up front and 41 in the back!

Just got back from a 6200 KM trip and they still look good to me.

 

[RCinNC]

I ride an awful lot of two-up , and I'm not a small guy. Over the life of my bike I've mostly used Shinko 705's, with a sprinkling of other tires like the Bridgestone Battlewings. The lifespans of my rear tires is pretty consistently between 4500 and 5500 miles (about 7200-8800 km), with the fronts in the 8000-9000 mile range (about 13,000 km). The Shinkos were at the lower end of that range, with the Battlewings at the upper. I ride mostly on pavement, with some dirt and gravel thrown in. It does get pretty hot here in the south in the summer, so part of the year it can often be in the 90's. My front tires usually last through two rear tires. I don't run my tires down to the belts; when tread depth gets down to about 4/32", I change them.

I did see a significant longevity increase with the Mitas E07, non plus version. I got about 9000 miles out of a rear tire. I have a set of those on now. I just got back from a 2200 mile trip, and the tires themselves have about 3000 miles on them, and they still look new. At this same point with the Shinko 705 or a Battlewing, the wear would be easily noticeable.

Slowing down a heavy bike with a heavy load can take its toll on bike tires, as can the passenger weight. My pillion is in the 130 lb range, and her weight is right over the rear tire.

 

[wal054]

Thanks for your replies . I run pressures at 36 f & 45 rear. Might look at the Mitas

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . Is this sort of wear rate common for the loads and road conditions described?

Yes. Probably a little better than average.

 

[RCinNC]

I'm a big fan of the E07. I think I've run three sets of them over the years, and they're a pretty good all around tire. Their lifespan is their big selling point for me, as I think the Shinkos were actually a little better in the gravel.

The Shinkos were a decent tire (at one time), but my main reason for running them was economic. Prior to the post-pandemic inflation, the Shinkos were pretty cheap compared to other brands. I could buy two rear Shinkos for around the price of one higher end tire like an Anakee, and I'd get more miles out of the two Shinkos. I change my own tires, so I didn't have to factor in the installation costs. Since the post pandemic inflation hit, the Shinkos have gone up enough in price that their dollar to mile ratio isn't nearly at good as it used to be, plus I've now had to return two front tires in a row because of defects. Shinkos are off my list for the moment.

There are two versions of the E07; they have the E07 and the E07+. The "+" model was formulated a few years back for heavier bikes like the 1200GS, but by all reports I'd read, their longevity substantially decreased. Mitas had discontinued the original E07, but brought it back due to consumer demand. I stick with the original and not the plus version.

 

[Boris]

I’ve done about 48k miles on my Gen1 bike, all solo. I’ve only ever used different types of Metzeler Tourance and get between 5500 and 7000 miles a pair. The fronts would go on a tad longer, but it’s so close I prefer to change as a pair.

Pressures - 35/40

 

[Muybig]

Looking at the Bridgestone AT 41's for my next set, will probably get them installed towards the end of the season for next year. I plan on doing some trips with a lot of grave roads and their slightly more off-road the Battlewings

 

[lund]

I ride an awful lot of two-up , and I'm not a small guy. Over the life of my bike I've mostly used Shinko 705's, with a sprinkling of other tires like the Bridgestone Battlewings. The lifespans of my rear tires is pretty consistently between 4500 and 5500 miles (about 7200-8800 km), with the fronts in the 8000-9000 mile range (about 13,000 km). The Shinkos were at the lower end of that range, with the Battlewings at the upper. I ride mostly on pavement, with some dirt and gravel thrown in. It does get pretty hot here in the south in the summer, so part of the year it can often be in the 90's. My front tires usually last through two rear tires. I don't run my tires down to the belts; when tread depth gets down to about 4/32", I change them.

I did see a significant longevity increase with the Mitas E07, non plus version. I got about 9000 miles out of a rear tire. I have a set of those on now. I just got back from a 2200 mile trip, and the tires themselves have about 3000 miles on them, and they still look new. At this same point with the Shinko 705 or a Battlewing, the wear would be easily noticeable.

Slowing down a heavy bike with a heavy load can take its toll on bike tires, as can the passenger weight. My pillion is in the 130 lb range, and her weight is right over the rear tire.

There are actually 3 version of the Mitas E07.
The E07 and the E07+ are essentially the same tire with a different trend pattern. Alot of guys preferred the original pattern so Mitas brought it back.
The third version is the E07+Dakar, it is the same pattern as the E07+ except it has a slightly harden rubber compound with an extra armored belting in the carcass for added durability.
The Dakar version is best used on loaded bikes and its weakness is wet surfaces, it is a more slippery tire in comparison to the NON Dakar E07's.
The Dakar version is identified by a yellow stripe that you will not find on the other two versions.
The Mitas are one of my favorite go to tires, depending on the one you go with you can exceed 10,000kms with a fully loaded bike, they perform extremely well on all terrian.
I generally run the E07+ on the front and the E07+Dakar on the rear and prefer the heavy lug pattern of the + version over the older smaller lug version of the E07 on the heavy S10.

 

[TimBucTwo]

Tire longevity is directly proportional to the right wrist angle.

 

[RCinNC]

The E07 and the E07+ differ more that just the tread pattern; the tread compound is actually different. At least that's what Mitas told me several years ago when I wrote to them to ask that they bring back the original compound E07. The plus version was, according to Mitas, designed specifically for the big heavy ADV bikes, and the tread compound was changed to improve handling at the expense of losing lifespan. They're really different tires. Mitas eventually brought the original compound E07 back because there lots of customer request to bring back the older, longer lived tire compound.

The E07 and the E07 Dakar seem to me to be basically different models of the same tire, with the biggest difference being the number of plies in the carcass. I would consider the E07 and E07 Dakar and the E07+ and E07+ Dakar to be two different series of tires, with two different models within each series, and not three separate series of tires. I just left most of that out of my reply because I figured it made things too complicated.

 

[Sierra1]

Looking at the Bridgestone AT 41's for my next set, will probably get them installed towards the end of the season for next year. I plan on doing some trips with a lot of grave roads and their slightly more off-road the Battlewings

I'll be curious to see if you wear out 2 fronts to 1 rear. Myself and one or two others have had those results. Which is opposite to every other tire ever. I have to assume that heavy braking and heat are the culprits in addition to whatever compound(s) they use.

 

[escapefjrtist]

Looking at the Bridgestone AT 41's for my next set, will probably get them installed towards the end of the season for next year. I plan on doing some trips with a lot of grave roads and their slightly more off-road the Battlewings

Just finished my first (and last) set of AT 41s. Got them on sale last year so I figured worth a try. Tires were just okay, didn't do anything spectacularly well...IMHO horrible on any type of loose surface. Don't even try light sand, they don't know which way is forward. Rear was toast and into wear bars at 5800-ish fairly easy miles and front was done at 6500-ish miles. Not a do-over for me.

~G

 

[Madhatter]

sand is evil

 

[Cycledude]

Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires will greatly outlast any other tire mentioned in this thread.
Here are some pictures of a set after 10,400 miles

 

[SLKid]

Been heavily following this thread as Ive slam wore out my front tire
Those Dunlop TrailMax Missions look awesome and the longevity is a bonus

 

[Checkswrecks]

Tire wear relates heavily to wrist and pavement. Tires that last well here get chewed up by the sharper pavement in one nearby State.

 

[Sierra1]

I've always found that more grip = less miles. And vice versa. I'm still looking for a happy medium.

 

[thughes317]

I've always found that more grip = less miles. And vice versa. I'm still looking for a happy medium.

I like more grip, longevity isn't a consideration at this point for me. (If ya wanna play, ya gotta pay)