Is this true?

[chromax]

I have read till my eyes bleed about these bikes and several others.
Here they are:

Bmw R1200RT no I cant do this I had one a K 1200 LT and had nothing but problems. This isn't a bash just my experience.
Triumph Trophy SE Abs never had one but the reviews and dealer network is shady the forums say they are great if you get a good one so no.
FJR great bike but to small cramped cockpit test rode one.
Katoom 1290 Sa to many teething problems too long to get parts skinny dealer network high dollar.
Suzuki v strom 1000 no chain needs a shaft drive
Honda VFR 1200 X no cruise heated grips are an accessory

It always comes back to the S10, I have only test rode an S10 never spent a couple hours with it.
I read this review I want you guys to look it over and tell me if its BS. Most of my riding is on the street but when we get up into the Carolinas and Georgia mountains the fire trails are every where which is what makes me chase an adv bike. Thanks in advance for your opinions

https://rideapart.com/articles/final-review-2014-yamaha-tenere

 

[TXTenere]

I agree with what the article says .. I loved owning the Super Tenere. I don't miss the Super Tenere. I don't miss anything about it.

For me, the Super Tenere was boring. It didn't have the fun factor that other bikes have, and I found it too expensive to dealer maintain. My experience -- it was the most expensive bike to dealer maintain of any that I've owned (Honda, Suzuki, BMW x4, Triumph, and Kawasaki). So to pay a premium for a bike that didn't put a smile on my face; that didn't make sense for me.

Now, the RIDERS of the Super Tenere -- can't be beat. Friendly bunch of people, which is why I stick around this forum.

Bikes are personal. My synopsis, and that in the article linked above mean little for anyone else. Buy whatever makes you happy and enjoy it. The opinion of others means little when it comes to your satisfaction or lack thereof.

 

[hogmolly]

That review says more about the reviewer than the bike. Almost all reviews are that way. All bikes that are reliable and do their job without much fuss will be considered boring by many. How many times have you heard "Hondas are boring".

 

[RCinNC]

LOL, I've never in my life thrown my leg over any motorcycle and found it boring. But, like all subjective opinions, you can't argue with them, because you feel however you feel about something. My subjective opinion is that I'd ride anything from an Enfield 350 and a Ducati, and you'd see me smiling.

I am curious about why you found the Yamaha to be your most expensive bike to maintain. Was it the cost of the parts, or the fees charged by the dealer, or the frequency of maintenance? I do my own maintenance on this bike, so I don't have a frame of reference for it, but it doesn't seem to need any more maintenance than any of my other bikes; in fact, since it has 26,000 mile valve check intervals, it actually needs less maintenance than my old V-Strom.

 

[TXTenere]

I am curious about why you found the Yamaha to be your most expensive bike to maintain. Was it the cost of the parts, or the fees charged by the dealer, or the frequency of maintenance? I do my own maintenance on this bike, so I don't have a frame of reference for it, but it doesn't seem to need any more maintenance than any of my other bikes; in fact, since it has 26,000 mile valve check intervals, it actually needs less maintenance than my old V-Strom.

It was the dealer labor that makes it expensive, along with the service interval.

I'd tell a prospective buyer to price the Super Tenere for 30,000 miles against whatever bikes are being considered. With that data, you can get a pretty good picture on the ownership cost.

 

[RonH]

I never dealer maintain a vehical, so the Yamaha is near perfect. It is really easy to maintain yourself. Of course valve maintenance is a different story, and takes a little skill and patience to perform, but still easily done. Last dealer maintained motorcycle I owned was a 1990 BMW, and I won't ever fall into another BMW to this day after that 1500 miles of torture.

 

[snakebitten]

Hard to bored while enjoying the amazing adventures that I've had while perched on a Super Tenere.
There just aren't many bikes to choose from to fit the mission statement this bike was designed for.
I can only think of 4. And wouldn't expect any of them to be boring if you're using them in their intended capacity.

But to be completely honest, I'm not likely to be bored fetching groceries if I'm accomplishing that on a bike.

The bike is dang near bullet proof, so the only complaint about $cost is it's dirt bike appetite for tires.

 

[Gobear]

I'm curious SPX , what do,now ride?

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Boring is very subjective. I guess I could complain that it's not a great wheelie bike. Some might say that makes it boring, but even though I love to wheelie, I can't call it boring. I'm always satisfied riding my Tenere

 

[limey]

Definitely not boring. This bike has taking me places I could only dream of and the amazing people I've met on the way.

 

[VRODE]

Most motorcycles become boring to me if I spend too much time riding sedately. Hustling a big bike around is not boring, in fact, it's a challenge. This is the most comfortable motorcycle I've ever had the pleasure of riding. Whether I'm flogging it or not, it's comfy.

 

[imsteveiv]

I'm on my second ST moving from a 2012 to 2016 ES. There are times that I long for the excitement of my old GSXR but then I take an off ramp and head to a fireroad. Riding this bike offroad always puts a smile on my face. I love all the torque down low for slow hill climbs without drama and the ABS has never done anything except save my butt. I love the long fuel range and I've never had trouble keeping up with my buddies in the twisties, they're on a FJ09 and XSR. I dont agree with the review when it says the the tenere can be a pain in low speed maneuvers. The bike is very well balanced with a low center of gravity and I've never had issues doing low speed maneuvers.

 

[magic]

I guess everyone's definition of low speed maneuvers will be different depending on where you ride. I will tell you this, from idle to 2000 rpm there isn't much there for throttle response. With the engine idling and the clutch out you are doing 7 mph. If you need to go any slower be prepared to do a lot of clutch slipping and throttle work. The low end torque from 2000-3500 rpm is good though. This has been my only complaint about an otherwise pretty good motorcycle. BTW I have done the air screw adjustment, throttle body synch, CO setting and removed the play from the throttle cables. It's a lot better now than when I bought it, but still I'm not satisfied. I may have to get the ECU reflashed.

 

[Checkswrecks]

I get so tired of reviews like this, where they don't own the bike, and they don't fully use what it can do. Turn off the Traction Control and it's a lot less boring. The weight disappears as soon as it starts to move.


Like some of the others wrote, it works for me.

 

[Dogdaze]

I have to say, I like boring, it keeps me on the road, not in a hospital or worse. I allows me to spend money on fuel, to ride, not speeding tickets. It allows me to 'feel' connected and distracted at the same time, anyone that has ridden or driven at high speed or fast technical will know, you cannot be distracted. I like the bike, if I wanted exciting I would get a 200hp pocket rocket and look for parked up Police cars and taunt them (if I were 18 again)

 

[TXTenere]

I'm curious SPX , what do,now ride?

2016 R1200GS.

Certainly costs more to buy, but I find the bike exciting, and feel a connection to the bike which I never felt with the Super Tenere's that I owned.

 

[snakebitten]

I guess everyone's definition of low speed maneuvers will be different depending on where you ride. I will tell you this, from idle to 2000 rpm there isn't much there for throttle response. With the engine idling and the clutch out you are doing 7 mph. If you need to go any slower be prepared to do a lot of clutch slipping and throttle work. The low end torque from 2000-3500 rpm is good though. This has been my only complaint about an otherwise pretty good motorcycle. BTW I have done the air screw adjustment, throttle body synch, CO setting and removed the play from the throttle cables. It's a lot better now than when I bought it, but still I'm not satisfied. I may have to get the ECU reflashed.

I pretty much agree with this on flat ground. But I quickly discovered that if this motor is under load at the lower rpms, it is a very different experience.
While climbing (vertical load on engine), suddenly that 8-11 mph crawl is directly tied to that portion of low throttle input and the bike takes on a tractor nature.
It's intoxicating to me.

It DOES require you to "pick your line" at a fair clip, if you want to avoid the clutch work. And as crazy as it might sound to a street only rider, 11mph can be a brisk pace for picking lines in many circumstances. Just like road-racing, you gotta force yourself to look ahead further.
If it's a good day, you find the zone!

Oh my, anything but boring to ride in the zone of this amazing bike off-road. It just CLAWS its way to the summit.

I thank eemsreno, again, for introducing the technique to me. It didn't come natural.
My nature was to "attack", a much more aggressive pace. And while that too was a high adrenaline rush, it was not using this weapon at its best attributes.

And by the way, SPX, while our opinions differ on "boredom", you'll get no debate from me for choosing one of the other 3 bikes. I said there were 4. Lol
And I'd be willing to accept that your choice is indeed more exciting than the Tenere when the tires are rolling on tarmac. All evidence I've seen support that.

 

[magic]

Question for Snakebitten; Is your bike flashed? Just wondering because my S10 just does not exhibit any of these tractor like characteristics. It just doesn't like to run below 2000 rpm. Throttle response is just fine over 2000 rpm. I grew up on dirt bikes and progressed to motocross and enduro racing and some trials riding. So, I'm a pretty capable off road rider. If a reflash would take care of this, I would be a lot happier with this bike.

 

[snakebitten]

Yes. Flashed.

And the circumstances I described specifically (above), are the rare circumstances I use "T mode".
It certainly provides additional throttle margin-of-error.

Are you saying you have experienced riding under considerable load (climbing) for lengthy sustained ~11 mph runs?
(I think that's about 1800 rpm's)

I don't believe I had more than a few months of OEM ecu programming. I didn't rush to get the fueling sorted for the environment we're discussing. Rather I resented the intentional gimping of power output for the first 3 gears, and the less than ideal off-idle "stumble" that sometimes resulted in the engine dying if I blipped the throttle at a traffic stop.

 

[snakebitten]

Magic, I should have added that with your dirt background, in my opinion you would appreciate the improvements of a reflash far more than folks that just appreciate the roadworthy improvements. I believe that anyways.

And fortunately for you, Anthony can tweak the reflash to provide you very specific characteristics, from all reports.
Mine was done far before Anthony started to offer his service. (ECU unleashed)