How disappointing !

[FredoRider]

How disappointing that Yamaha didn't want to be involved in this Sports-Adventure-Touring test shoot out. I was really looking forward to this test result.
https://youtu.be/nRXHC2C2ntQ
:-[

 

[Rasher]

Shame, as it looked like a good honest and unbiased review, I am sure the S10's qualities would have been recognised.

Nothing there really made me want to crack open my wallet, do like the Ducati's and KTM's but both worry me with regard to keeping on the road costs once out of warranty.

 

[JRE]

I wonder why

 

[Dogdaze]

It could be just that the S10 would be the oldest of the bunch and or Yamaha does not want to show it's age........

 

[JRE]

Here's the actual write up - http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2015-ultimate-sports-adventure-touring-shootout

 

[EricV]

Could simply be that whomever they hit up for a bike for their essentially unknown group of internet reporters didn't see them as all that legit. No Guzzi either and half of the bikes they did get I wouldn't call ADV Touring bikes. Like the BMW XR and the Suzuki VStrom, etc.

 

[shrekonwheels]

Not familiar with these guys, however Yami certainly has the coin to spend for advertising in the field in a far wider capacity than KTM, Ducati and of course BMW.

It would have been a good time for the Tenere to easily been in the top three. Sorry, sagging sales is Yamis own fault.

 

[FredoRider]

What surprising is these guys had reviewed the S10 Es last year and really liked it. So I'm sure it would had a good position in the shoot out out... Go figure :question:
https://youtu.be/b5_daOrci0A
https://youtu.be/551zU3WGsFU

 

[twinrider]

What's funny is the XR won, even though they complained a lot about the vibrations and its crummy urban manners. Obviously a great bike for a few hours of twisty strafing but not what i would call an adventure tourer unless you're a 20-something speed freak.

 

[Tyke]

What I took from the report was that every rider has his or her own bike needs and favourites.

One man's meat is another man's poison, and maybe Yamaha felt that they didn't have a point to prove, others will interpret the S10s absence as an opportunity missed :-\

I've test ridden quite a few of the bikes that fall within my wish list, and for now my S10 is the one for me.....new bikes arrive on the scene all the time and often with accompanying tales of woe from owners.

As I get older a lighter bike will almost certainly be my requirement until then I'll stay with my S10 which when all is said and done is very...very...reliable ::008::

 

[Checkswrecks]

Not familiar with these guys, however Yami certainly has the coin to spend for advertising in the field in a far wider capacity than KTM, Ducati and of course BMW.

It would have been a good time for the Tenere to easily been in the top three. Sorry, sagging sales is Yamis own fault.

Umm - Since the Gen2 came out Yamaha considers the sales of the Super-T to be a success according to a regional rep I spoke with.
And having just bought my second, I saw two things that seem to support that view. The season end discounts are not extreme (some are normal) and good luck finding a low-priced ES.

 

[Defekticon]

Umm - Since the Gen2 came out Yamaha considers the sales of the Super-T to be a success according to a regional rep I spoke with.
And having just bought my second, I saw two things that seem to support that view. The season end discounts are not extreme (some are normal) and good luck finding a low-priced ES.

Yep. I didn't get much of a discount on my hold over 2014 non-es, but I wanted blue. Although Romney in West Virginia was going to let a '15 ES out the door at 13,500... that was a good deal. Also - Yamaha switched to doing financing in house away from capital one. Which is why I didn't end up buying the one from Romney. They changed over on the weekend I was looking to buy, and weren't accepting any new applicants until the switchover was complete.

 

[Balmorerider]

What's funny is the XR won, even though they complained a lot about the vibrations and its crummy urban manners. Obviously a great bike for a few hours of twisty strafing but not what i would call an adventure tourer unless you're a 20-something speed freak.

Not to mention the heat issue of the XR!!

 

[shrekonwheels]

Umm - Since the Gen2 came out Yamaha considers the sales of the Super-T to be a success according to a regional rep I spoke with.
And having just bought my second, I saw two things that seem to support that view. The season end discounts are not extreme (some are normal) and good luck finding a low-priced ES.

A good sales sales rep never says otherwise.

I believe there is a thread on here with some Super Ts new going for under 10, that says it all.

 

[Checkswrecks]

A good sales sales rep never says otherwise.

I believe there is a thread on here with some Super Ts new going for under 10, that says it all.

I wasn't talking about a sales guy, he's a tech person who I've known for some time.


And you are right in that there are dealers trying to move 2012 and 2013s for as low as $8,000. And you can find ads for 2014 non-ES models for the low $10k area.
But get the actual pre-tax prices and with delivery, set-up, and such those bikes will be back up to starting in the mid-$11s.

 

[barkingllizard]

 

[Brick]

I too think it's a shame that Yamaha chose not to participate. I'm on my second Super T... a 2012 with 80,000 and now my 2014 with 31,000. I'm sold. However, at my age I too am thinking lighter would be nice. I rented an FJ09 for an Alps ride of 20 days and really love it. As of right now I would love to add an FJ09 to my MC garage!
::021::

 

[shredmeister]

Ok, I have to chime in on this one. I don't care much that the Tenere isn't included in "another" testing....good or bad results. This forum and it's members are the ultimate test and best opinions, real world testing. The bikes on this forum see so much more than a magazine test with some reporting over 100k miles. Enough said ::022::

 

[bnschroder]

one thing that struck me where the HP ratings on the test, which were probably all dyno tested since they were well below the manufacturer numbers. I then looked at another motorcycle.com review of the S10 and it said the HP was barely above 90. That would mean that all the tested bikes had higher HP ratings, and I suspect Yamaha would not have liked that.
To me it doesn't matter since the bike is fast and powerful enough for me, But in these times of an HP "arms race" I wouldn't be shocked if we saw 200 HP Adventure bikes in a few years and editors were calling the 150 HP bikes "anemic"

 

[FredoRider]

I wouldn't be shocked if we saw 200 HP Adventure bikes in a few years and editors were calling the 150 HP bikes "anemic"

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