Gen2 Super Tenere ES engine mode setting and suspension settings.

[eram310]

I find that when I am riding on broken down twisty roads I switch to the touring engine mode. It’s easier for me to manage throttle that way. I also find that standard /soft suspension setting works well on broken down roads. I am 160lbs.
The only time I now use the sport mode is on straight roads or highways when throttle management isn’t critical. The only time I set the suspension dampening to hard is on smooth roads.
Anyone else or is something wrong with my 2015 ES?

 

[Bryn]

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I've had my 2014 ES for a couple of months now, and I'g getting more used to sport mode. I've just got back from a 600 mile trip around the English Lake District ( very hilly single track roads.. Worst one was a 1 in 3 gradient :

Left it in sport mode for the entire trip...although it is gentler when in 'T'

I was fully loaded with a passenger for the whole time...set it on two up plus luggage . Hard +1

 

[klunsford]

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That sounds a lot like I do. On soft, it takes a bit of the bumps out of the washed out roads and handles great on the paved roads on hard. Less suspension travel.

 

[MrVvrroomm]

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My '14 ES on soft is MUCH smoother riding than my wife's '15 non-ES set at minimum. I was actually shocked the first time I rode it.

 

[TommyBwell]

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My '14 ES on soft is MUCH smoother riding than my wife's '15 non-ES set at minimum. I was actually shocked the first time I rode it.

Very cool. I really want an ES but sometimes think about a leftover '13. I think I would enjoy it much more.

 

[iClint]

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I think everyones milage is going to vary on this.

My last 3 bikes have been high powered and throttle-by-wire so I think I have developed a very refined level of throttle control.

My choice of throttle modes is the exact opposite of yours.

when I am on the long straights it goes into touring mode, when I get to the twisties or dirt it goes into sport mode

I'm riding the S10 off road in Sport mode. While it might seem "easier" to ride it in Touring mode, it is (for me) easier to have more fine throttle control is sport mode off road. For example if the bike starts to go down and I need to stand it up with some power I want to be able to access that power quickly and in a linear manner something you don't get in Touring mode.

 

[Tyke]

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Everyones riding style/preferences are different

My 2014 ZE (ES) now has 6500 + miles all on tarmac roads, I don't ride off road anymore, I use Std 0 setting and switch between "T" ans "S" modes depending on my mood

Eram there's nothing wrong with your bike my friend ::008::

 

[tomatocity]

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I have asked CheckWrecks and Venture to add a "2014+ ES" subject so we can discuss anything about these fine motorcycles. Seeing this thread made me happy since I am trying to what the ES suspension settings should do.

When I first bought my ES I did not know "all" the settings so I will throw this in the information pot.

HARD +3, +2, +1, 0, -!, -2, -3
STD +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, -3
SOFT +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, -3

I did not know there were " - " minus numbers and very glad to find them.

Are the dampening "+" "-" numbers sequential HARD +3 to SOFT -1 or do they stagger. I am not smart enough to know how to ask this question, so jump in.

The condition of the roads I have ridden with the 2015 ES vary. Super smooth freeway and two-lane to rough freeway and two-lane. My favorite local "go-to" ride is a river ride with levees. The roads are both County and State with the State being the smoother. There are grated bridges and two State Operated Ferry's. These road surfaces vary enough that I could stop and change the suspension settings but usually set it to SOFT -2 or -3. This ride is where I have tested different settings though need to spend sometime adding loaded and unloaded luggage.

The "S" and "T" throttle modes are both good at times. Usually ride in "T" but like the performance of "S". For me the "S" seems to cover up the lack of power at lower rpms, less than 3000, but provides arm stretching big smile power. My 2012 Z never came close to this 2015 ES. Thank you Yamaha. Like some other riders I find the "S" mode to be jerky and scary at times... narrow rough twisty roads. The "T" mode seems to be the same as the 2012.

 

[fredz43]

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I have asked CheckWrecks and Venture to add a "2014+ ES" subject so we can discuss anything about these fine motorcycles. Seeing this thread made me happy since I am trying to what the ES suspension settings should do.

When I first bought my ES I did not know "all" the settings so I will throw this in the information pot.

HARD +3, +2, +1, 0, -!, -2, -3
STD +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, -3
SOFT +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, -3

I did not know there were " - " minus numbers and very glad to find them.

Are the dampening "+" "-" numbers sequential HARD +3 to SOFT -1 or do they stagger. I am not smart enough to know how to ask this question, so jump in.

Hi Tim,

I believe I posted this graphic on another thread, but I will post it again, as it might help to understand the sequence of damping ranges. Also note that if you preset the damping on one preload range, for instance solo rider, those presets do not carry over to the other preload ranges. So you can preset a different set of damping adjustments for each of the 4 preload settings.

 

[tomatocity]

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Thanks Fred. Afterwards I knew I left the Preload and was hoping someone would cover that. Hopefully your information creates a good discussion.

So there is overlap on Dampening when using different Preloads? Is this a printable document?

I am liking the 2015 ES more every ride.

 

[Shovelhead]

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Is this a printable document?

yes sir. Considering using PC and Windows ---- Place your mouse over Freds document and "right click".
select "save image as"
next pop up window select "save"
it should save the file to your "downloads folder" on your computer.

Open the file and select print.
I'm at work and the file opened in "windows photo viewer"
At the bottom uncheck "fit picture to frame".

Prints beautifully.

I've been curious about how the settings relate to different pre-loads as well. Thanks Fred! ::008::

 

[eram310]

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Thanks everyone especially to Fredz43 with his picture. I wasn't aware of this.
There are a lot of combinations to explore.

 

[fredz43]

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Thanks everyone especially to Fredz43 with his picture. I wasn't aware of this.
There are a lot of combinations to explore.

Yes, there are 84 combinations, to be exact. There are 4 preload settings. In each of these you have 3 ranges of damping (soft, normal, and hard) Within each range of damping you have 7 preset choices (-3, -2, -1, 0, +1, +2, +3). So 4 x 7 x 3 = 84.

 

[jimyamaha]

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I had mine in 'T' mode when running the engine in and was exactly what i thought the engine would be like on the S10. Then i put it in 'S' and its been there ever since as i enjoy the throttle response as i am 99% on roads.....and i think makes the engine fun.

The suspension is something i have said in a other posts as a surprise. In a good way. The Yamaha settings just 'work' and i have not had to adjust the setting to much. My preference when out riding by myself with no kit is having it on the One up plus luggage setting on standard -1 and that seems comfy to me and handles good.
Will fiddle about with the setting when i chuck some luggage on.

 

[vapexpr]

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The bike will also remember each soft, normal & hard setting within each preload setting. The preload can only be set with the engine running while in neutral. The damping +3 to -3 for each soft, normal & hard setting can also only be set while not in motion however the engine does not need to be running. Once the preload is set and you are riding you can switch between soft, normal & hard on the fly. This makes switching to changing road (or off road) conditions very simple. The bike will remember t h e last settings rather than reverting back to a default each time you ride. When I ride solo I select the one rider + luggage and two riders + luggage when I'm 2-up.

 

[Checkswrecks]

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I have asked CheckWrecks and Venture to add a "2014+ ES" subject so we can discuss anything about these fine motorcycles. Seeing this thread made me happy since I am trying to what the ES suspension settings should do.
. . .

While creating a Gen2 playground is a great idea, it is something which only Venture can do. In the meantime, I suggest starting Gen2 topics with the very unique and clever "Gen2" like I just modified this one.

 

[regulator]

Good idea CW.

Uniformly adding "Gen2" will help folks find info appropriate to their bike.

 

[tomatocity]

Re: Super Tenere ES engine mode setting and suspension settings.

While creating a Gen2 playground is a great idea, it is something which only Venture can do. In the meantime, I suggest starting Gen2 topics with the very unique and clever "Gen2" like I just modified this one.

Thanks CW.

edit: What I thought. Does not include the new title when "Quote" is used to reply.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

I only have 600 miles on the Gen 2. All but two of those miles have been in Sport mode. I am finding it a bit challenging to make slow speed corners at congested intersections. I assume I'll work that out over time. I appreciate the responsiveness, just need to learn to twist a little less.

Really looking forward to getting out from the restrictions of breaking in the bike. I'm one of those who follows the recommendation in the book. 400 more miles and I can finally ride like myself. All this short shifting stuff is keeping me off kilter a bit. Once the handcuffs are gone heading straight to a dirt road where I can unleash the new Sport mode and kill off some of that nasty tread from the rear tire. ::008::