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Harry Dresden PI

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Planning to install a fuse block and wanted suggestions for where to install and what brand and model of fuse block....

Fuseblocks FZ1 power distribution block ~ $ 83.99

Blue Sea Systems ST Blad Fuse Block 6 Circuits ~ $ 26.23

Hella H84960091 6 Way ~ $ 8.93

Cen-Tech AP-1 Fuse Panel ~ $ 54.95

?????

Given the 2014 S10 ES has little room not sure what works well.

I plan to install

1. Air Horn (Screaming Banshee)
2. Hyper Lites (3 way)
3. Add 2 electrical power ports (USB likely)
4. ??
 

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Auto parts store or most electronics stores, this terminal strip will cost you less than $3. Add a relay for another couple of bucks and you can have as many poles as you want for battery power, switched power, or ground. I have a main accessory fuse between this and the battery, plus individual fuses for the accessories coming off this terminal strip.


 

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Where people have been installing the Fuse boxes there is less room on the 2014 as the cruise control has a relay taking up 50% of the available space.

I bought a PC-8 and it doesn't fit - well it does but it is a very tight fit, tighter than I was comfortable with as routing wires into and out of it would be very difficult.

I'm going with just a DIY distribution block, it will have plenty of room and be able to take more circuits.
 

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I mounted a 6 position fuse block beside the battery on my 2014.
 

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i bought my fuse block from west marine, a boat supply store. it should be resistant against water, it was made for use on a boat. took out the factory tool kit, mounted it with velcro in that spot. no issues, and its been there over a year. have two sets of rigid lights , hela freeway blasters horns, lead for my air compressor... cost about 30 dollars i think....and room for more connections.
 

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iClint said:
Where people have been installing the Fuse boxes there is less room on the 2014 as the cruise control has a relay taking up 50% of the available space.

I bought a PC-8 and it doesn't fit - well it does but it is a very tight fit, tighter than I was comfortable with as routing wires into and out of it would be very difficult.

I'm going with just a DIY distribution block, it will have plenty of room and be able to take more circuits.
FYI Got Information From Easter Beaver ...

Brent, nobody needs cruise control anyway :)

Not sure what to suggest, other than find a different location and buy a Kit in
an appropriate length. Also, I'll make a note on the webpage about this model.
I'm sure you could mount a PC-8 under the seat with a longer Kit. I just don't
want to go through the hassles of figuring out a new special kit. Not having
this bike here makes it rather difficult.

Find the location and measure up the wiring run them order a Kit the length you
need. No different than most bike that don't have custom kits.

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Harry Dresden PI said:
FYI Got Information From Easter Beaver ...

Brent, nobody needs cruise control anyway :)

Not sure what to suggest, other than find a different location and buy a Kit in
an appropriate length. Also, I'll make a note on the webpage about this model.
I'm sure you could mount a PC-8 under the seat with a longer Kit. I just don't
want to go through the hassles of figuring out a new special kit. Not having
this bike here makes it rather difficult.

Find the location and measure up the wiring run them order a Kit the length you
need. No different than most bike that don't have custom kits.

--
Jim Davis, Owner, Eastern Beaver Company:
http://easternbeaver.com/ - Motorcycle Electrics
Visit and like us on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/EasternBeaverCompany
I haven't given up on the PC-8 I'm waiting on my Altrider bars to arrive so I can finish my light installation. once I have everything I am going to have a look at the situation again.

I'll probably relocate the cruise control relay to make room.

the tongue in cheek comment about nobody needs cruise control.... perhaps not in japan the entire country is 1,400km end to end. 1,400km would barely get me out of the state of NSW in Australia and we have sections of road that are dead straight for up to 100km. Cruise control was a huge selling point when buying the S10 and I'm loving it.
 

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Gen is correct, there is no problem mounting the Fuzeblocks FZ1 to an ES. Just move the relay and cut the rib.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
Auto parts store or most electronics stores, this terminal strip will cost you less than $3. Add a relay for another couple of bucks and you can have as many poles as you want for battery power, switched power, or ground. I have a main accessory fuse between this and the battery, plus individual fuses for the accessories coming off this terminal strip.


Could you explain this setup a bit more please and how it's all wired to be the least invasive.
Just one relay ? and it's main function ?
What size wire for the battery feed and ground?
I guess the main inline fuse to the battery would be sized at the load of the accessories from the terminal block. ?
Do most of these accessories come with an inline fuse or are you having to splice in your own?
The more connections you have will create more chances of failure.

Thanks
 

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Shovelhead said:
Could you explain this setup a bit more please and how it's all wired to be the least invasive.
Just one relay ? and it's main function ?
What size wire for the battery feed and ground?
I guess the main inline fuse to the battery would be sized at the load of the accessories from the terminal block. ?
Do most of these accessories come with an inline fuse or are you having to splice in your own?
The more connections you have will create more chances of failure.

Thanks

Mine is mounted behind the upper right side panel and is vertical with the relay right below it. This is just in front of the existing relays, which the Gen 2 bikes have occupied. I did need to drill the plastic tray to mount the strip and the relay mounts to the bottom screw which holds the terminal strip in place. Sorry that I don't have time right now to draw it all up or pull the panels and shoot photos but what is below should be clear.


Electrically, as i recall:


The bottom two terminals rows (left and right) on the strip are shorted together with the bar shown in the photo for a common ground of accessories. There is a 10 or 12 gauge wire to the battery ground post from one of them.


The next two rows up are shorted together and are supplied with switched power from the relay. Off of these are the wires with inline fuses to the GPS, heated jacket plug, and I don't remember what else.


The rows above that are shorted together and supplied with power from the battery by another 10 or 12 gage wire. The wire has a 30A(?) fuse next to the positive battery terminal.


The other heated jacket (bike is set for riding 2-up) plug comes off one of the upper terminal screws because it's a Powerlet that I wanted to be able to use for charging cellphones and such. Another lead from one of these goes to an SAE plug for the air compressor and trickle charger.


The relay gets power from a jumper off one of the top terminals, so it is supplied battery power. I don't remember what I used as the switching source but think it was from one of the OEM sockets for the unused heated grips.


As for reliability, I use Lok-Tite on the screws and haven't ever had a problem on this or many previous bikes. And I'd rather have the one additional set of ring terminals on the battery posts than multiple.
 

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Thanks Checks. I'm in no hurry so don't go out your way to draw it all up.

Didn't really need to know what wire went to the block but that gives me an idea of what you done.
Still curious about how each accessory is fused. Did you have to add in line fuses or do most accessories come with them, such as the GPS?

What are you calling an SAE plug?
You mention the same circuit for an air compressor and a trickle charger. That don't make sense to me, my battery tender has a 7A inline fuse and both of my mini compressors can draw 15-25A.
It beats me why these mini compressors come with a cigar lighter plug and they can draw 15-25A while the cigar plug on most bikes is fused @ what --- 5A. ???
 

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Shovelhead said:
Thanks Checks. I'm in no hurry so don't go out your way to draw it all up.

Didn't really need to know what wire went to the block but that gives me an idea of what you done.
Still curious about how each accessory is fused. Did you have to add in line fuses or do most accessories come with them, such as the GPS?
A lot of accessories come with them and if not they are inexpensive at any car parts store.



Looking for pictures, I found this:
http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/relay.php
Shovelhead said:
What are you calling an SAE plug?
This is the SAE style and a lot of trickle chargers come with one. So did my compressor.

Shovelhead said:
You mention the same circuit for an air compressor and a trickle charger. That don't make sense to me, my battery tender has a 7A inline fuse and both of my mini compressors can draw 15-25A.
It beats me why these mini compressors come with a cigar lighter plug and they can draw 15-25A while the cigar plug on most bikes is fused @ what --- 5A. ???
I guess yours just is what it is. Cigar lighters are supposed to be limited to about 10A, with a few HD ones rated to 15A. The 25A compressor would be unusual, especially if the manufacturer expects it to be on a cig lighter plug.
 
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