11 High-Speed Electric Motorcycles You Need to Know
Zero is in there, but Harley is the only mainstream brand.
Zero is in there, but Harley is the only mainstream brand.
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Bridgee13
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Looking at Kawasaki's Hydrogen H2, electric could soon be yesterday's idea?
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Infrastructure isn't there for hydrogen. Idiots can't even fill up their cars with gas w/o leaving the nozzle in and driving away from the pump. Imagine that with hydrogen, (liquid or gas). We'd need solid fuel so those people don't blow themselves and others up.
As to electric, it's still range and charging time. No matter how many fanbois claim it's not, yeah, it still is. For grins I looked up my nearest Zero dealer. 152 miles via the most direct route, which was Interstate. The bike I was looking at doesn't have the range to get there if I'm running 70 mph. So if I buy a bike, trailer it home, I can't even ride it back to the dealer if I needed/wanted to go there. Fail.
Bridgee13
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Agree Eric, electric cars in the UK has taken a dip in recent months, not enough range.
However re hydrogen, people said that 20 years ago about electric.
Toyota and Kawasaki have teamed up with hydrogen and let's be honest the Japs know what there doing.
Kawasaki Hydrogen transporting ships are already very much out there.
Just have to look at the rise of Kawasaki Heavy Industries share price. Uhmmm?
However re hydrogen, people said that 20 years ago about electric.
Toyota and Kawasaki have teamed up with hydrogen and let's be honest the Japs know what there doing.
Kawasaki Hydrogen transporting ships are already very much out there.
Just have to look at the rise of Kawasaki Heavy Industries share price. Uhmmm?
Bridgee13
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Blimey the top gear boys have added some grey hair since then
And don't forget initial cost. I can get a very well equipped mid-sized ICEV for the same, or less, money as a compact EV. And there won't be any resale, because by the time you're done with it, the battery needs replacing.
As far as the dealer(s) being far away and needing to trailer the bike to the dealer . . . . that not much different than having a Beemer.
Well, yes, but that just goes to show how long hydrogen has been "the future". Kinda like flying cars.
Bridgee13
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What next flying motorbikes
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Haha if only
Good Lord the old anti-EV arguments never die. While there will always be a place for gas and diesel in our life times such as my 16 mpg Ford Transit . . .
My Bolt and her gas Tucson were the same price new - $28k. The Bolt range is advertised at 260 miles but gets closer to 300 in the summer and low 200s winter. The Tucson gets around 400 on a tank of gas.
We know that recharging the Bolt costs us about $370 annually since we mostly charge at home and have the electric bills to prove it. The only real maintenance is to watch the fluids because the brakes last forever due to regen braking. (Driving the motor in reverse slows the car and recharges the battery)
Filling her Tucson cost us a little under $1600/year plus oil changes and brakes. Surprisingly, tires last about the same.
As for batteries, the reality is that they are outlasting the bodies, so replacements are fairly cheap to buy from salvage yards or eBay. (Easy to check health before installation) Even when they do die, the batteries are 95% recyclable.
I'm not "anti-EV". I just don't believe they're the panacea that some are claiming. They're perfect for some, but not all. My charging would have to be done at home since there are zero chargers in our town, and only three in the next closest town. Range and infrastructure are my biggest concerns with cost following closely behind. At this time, EVs are not for me. Someday they might be. I don't feel it should be mandate but remain a choice. I also don't believe that if everyone went EV tomorrow, that the power is there to supply all of them. I know that Texas was reaching its production limits this summer and California has put out a "don't charge your EV today" in the past.
While some assert this largely for politics the reality is that the EV load on grids is a small fraction of 1% so essentially negligible.
Air conditioning, especially in the commercial space, is by far the biggest electric consumer, followed by lighting.
I can't say with any certainty how much excess electricity other states have. But with the influx of new residents, we're getting close to our production capacity each summer and winter. Add to the grid millions of EVs (30.9 million population) and I don't see how it doesn't exceed the limit.
Cycledude
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I’m waiting for nuclear powered car
Bridgee13
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Wow! So car thieves could steal a car and a small nuclear reactor, uhmmm.