They're being up front with us, but they are not giving up. I think that it would be the least that we could to do to not give up on them. It's pretty hard to complaign sitting in my easy chair while they struggle to rebuild their lives.
Delivery Delayed until at least Nov 1st
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Apparently Apple Computer is starting having problems getting parts. It's gonna get worse before it gets better. It's going to take a while before the far reaching ramifications are finally realized. I think some of you will see bikes by late summer.
I'm toast for this year, but I sure hope the rest of you can get some use from the Tenere laster on this year. Best of luck with that, and best of luck to Japan et al. R
I'm toast for this year, but I sure hope the rest of you can get some use from the Tenere laster on this year. Best of luck with that, and best of luck to Japan et al. R
Yeah, that's what dawned on me last night as well, basically this would mean I would not be riding it until about one year from now and it would be sitting at the dealer while I'm making payments and the warranty goes by. If it arrived in November I'd have almost 6 months on the warranty without it even being started...rem said:
I hate to back out but I'm debating canceling my order for now and picking one up in a year or two when they are no longer special order. By the time it shows up at the dealer I may be living elsewhere which would be a bit of a logistics problem as well.
Thanks for posting the text of the letter Tony. Since you have my order, I'll let you know I won't be canceling it here, instead of in another email O
I will say my excitement level over getting the bike was kicked up a notch after the demo ride I took a couple of weeks ago, but in the long run, the extra wait will be fine. I'm also guessing that we might be lucky and earlier orders will show up earlier than Nov 1 (around October 19 will be ideal for me, makes the bike my birthday present!).
My heart goes out to the Japanese people; I know rebuilding won't be easy or quick, but their reputation for tenacity and perseverance is a good indicator of their ability to rebound.
I will say my excitement level over getting the bike was kicked up a notch after the demo ride I took a couple of weeks ago, but in the long run, the extra wait will be fine. I'm also guessing that we might be lucky and earlier orders will show up earlier than Nov 1 (around October 19 will be ideal for me, makes the bike my birthday present!).
My heart goes out to the Japanese people; I know rebuilding won't be easy or quick, but their reputation for tenacity and perseverance is a good indicator of their ability to rebound.
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Yeah, I hear you scottdc. If there was a better selection of dealers up here I might .... emphasize Might ... jump ship, er, bike ... and go for something else. But Honda has nothing, ditto Victory, don't like the Kawa/Suzu dealer, wouldn't by a Harley anyway (sorry, Hogs ... nothing personal). That's about it. I'd be really nervous about having no dealer support. Besides, the Tenere is still the best fit for me. R
Buffeting? Easily fixable, if a problem at all.RonH said:
Your $500? I believe there's a claim form coming with the letter from Yamaha which announces the changes dates and allows for cancellations.
BUT WAIT! You ordered on Sept. 8 and you haven't had any mail from Yamaha yet? Are you sure the order went in? There has been 2 or 3 letters since then. Unless your dealer gave them the wrong address or something, you should have had those by now.
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While I understand the delay and the reasons, I wish more information was forthcoming rather than "We'll finish by end of November". With no better information, I think you have to assume worst case which is that deliveries won't start before Nov either. Customers can be very forgiving of this sort of thing IF you keep them very well informed. Springing partial information at sort of the last minute before deliveries were to begin doesn't strike me as Yamaha doing the best with customer communication.
I'm going to have to think about this. While there is nothing on the market today I'd buy instead of the S10, a November delivery for me makes no sense for several reasons, so November is essentially spring of 2012, nearly two years after these bikes first began shipping to Europe.
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I'm going to have to think about this. While there is nothing on the market today I'd buy instead of the S10, a November delivery for me makes no sense for several reasons, so November is essentially spring of 2012, nearly two years after these bikes first began shipping to Europe.
- Mark
I don't really understand the logic of a few people that are worried about receiving the bike in November and the warranty starting without using the bike. If you live in a northern state like I do, you are going to have winter for 5 months of the year anyway. What difference does it make when the warranty starts, you are still not going to be riding the bike for 5 months or so during that first year.
Now the same thing can be said about making payments on a brand new motorcycle. Like everything else dealing with money, it seems like a bigger deal. But you are going to be making payments at some time during the year and not riding it. I have bought a couple of motorcycles at the end of year and saved some money on the purchase price, so this is nothing new to me.
I was looking forward to riding it for at least a few months before winter, but that doesn't look like it will happen. For me, the delay will mean that I can get a few bills paid off and that will feel good. But not as good as riding a Super Tenere. I have had dual sports to touring bikes, but not one bike that can do it all. I will wait for this great motorcycle!
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Now the same thing can be said about making payments on a brand new motorcycle. Like everything else dealing with money, it seems like a bigger deal. But you are going to be making payments at some time during the year and not riding it. I have bought a couple of motorcycles at the end of year and saved some money on the purchase price, so this is nothing new to me.
I was looking forward to riding it for at least a few months before winter, but that doesn't look like it will happen. For me, the delay will mean that I can get a few bills paid off and that will feel good. But not as good as riding a Super Tenere. I have had dual sports to touring bikes, but not one bike that can do it all. I will wait for this great motorcycle!
Mike6753
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I understand some want to get out and ride and a November delay is too much. I understand the frustration of the uncertainty. But those presenting this bullshit selfish attitude obviously have never been through a disaster. Does anyone think US companies had any idea of when production would resume after Katrina or Andrew? Just over a month after the tsunami Yamaha has given a firm date of November 30, 2011. Take it, or get your deposit back. Enough said. :-X
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10-4 Mike6753. Agree. I will leave the bike at my dealership for two reasons: 1) by the time it gets here, there will be snow on the ground. I won't even be able to get it home without some difficulty. 2) since I won't be able to ride it at all, Yamaha might as well be responsible for it over the winter instead of me. Their bike, their liability. If something turns out to be defective, I won't know for another 7 months or so, and the bike would have been under my roof in the interim. The warranty thing doesn't make much difference. Plus, I will have a warm place (dealership) so install my farkles over the winter. I don't have the luxury of a heated garage. It will all work out. Plus my wife will have another whole year to pay for it. Win-win. R
Guys, let's not make buying a Super Tenere a referendum on whether you are selfish or not, nor whether you support the disaster victims in Japan. They are two separate things and honestly, the best way to help the disaster victims is to send them money directly (as I have), not buy a motorcycle.
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After reading the overwhelming positive responses from most of us, I am glad that most of us are rational and understanding.
Nah... The main page explaining the details of the PDP program is gone.fredz43 said:
I don't see why you can't delay delivery until Spring, if you're not able to ride due to climate, and then have the warranty start when you take delivery. I would think that you can use this delay as a negotiating tool with your dealer to request that you let him keep the bike on his floor for display as a sold bike. NO DEMO RIDES to lookers, of course. No loan payments, insurance, or other costs to you until you take delivery in the Spring.
Why not leave the bike in the crate and build it in the spring? I would not want people crawling over my bike for 6 months.ptfjjj said:
Even better! Either way, delay delivery to delay your costs until you can actually enjoy it.japako said:
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That is precisely my intention. The dealership has a large indoor storage area. I'll take delivery in the spring, but have access to it during the winter. The Yamaha mechanic has one on order as well, so if they want a display model, they can use his. This will work out fine for me. R
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Well, I'm going to stick it out. I haven't sold any of my other bikes yet, and they will get me through this year. I feel for you guys who had to sell your bike already!
Even though this month has been hell at work, and I've been to too damned many funerals lately, my life is pretty good. I can't bring myself to get my panties in a bunch over a delay from Yamaha given the terrible devastation that Japan has suffered. It's a reminder of what a complex web our economies are that even though Yamaha's plant wasn't damaged, it's dependent on other factors that are damaged beyond my ability to fully comprehend. When I think about that, it makes me feeling sad about waiting longer for a motorcycle seem kind of small.
And this really is a bike I've been waiting for since before it was ever announced. SWMBO and I really liked riding an R1200GS a few years back, but I have concerns about owning a BMW based on my experience with local dealers and what I've seen several friends go through. I have reason to expect much better of the Yamaha ownership experience.
So for me, my feeling is it will be worth the wait, and the wait won't kill me. Maybe it'll teach me patience. I just hope it teaches me fast! ;D
Even though this month has been hell at work, and I've been to too damned many funerals lately, my life is pretty good. I can't bring myself to get my panties in a bunch over a delay from Yamaha given the terrible devastation that Japan has suffered. It's a reminder of what a complex web our economies are that even though Yamaha's plant wasn't damaged, it's dependent on other factors that are damaged beyond my ability to fully comprehend. When I think about that, it makes me feeling sad about waiting longer for a motorcycle seem kind of small.
And this really is a bike I've been waiting for since before it was ever announced. SWMBO and I really liked riding an R1200GS a few years back, but I have concerns about owning a BMW based on my experience with local dealers and what I've seen several friends go through. I have reason to expect much better of the Yamaha ownership experience.
So for me, my feeling is it will be worth the wait, and the wait won't kill me. Maybe it'll teach me patience. I just hope it teaches me fast! ;D
no can do. My dealer and I had a misunderstanding when I bought my 2005 FJR. I knew it was coming in October, so I wanted him to hold it and start the warranty and deliver the bike in spring. He had no problem holding it, but these pre-order bikes have to be delivered and the clock started.japako said:
No big deal, I used that small misunderstanding to leverage a steep discount on the YES warranty. And if this all comes to pass and my new Super Tenere is delayed, I will deploy the same tactic.
That's a great idea on the steep discount for the warranty.Bigbore4 said: