Mine is over six months old, and a 99% commuter. And, I do most of my riding in the middle of the day. Now, I do ride with the "high" beams on. As we know, same bulb/wattage, but without the physical shield in front of the beam. Maybe the shield reflects too much heat back to the bulb? I've had Silver Star bulbs in my Jeep for almost five years without any problems, and many hours of night driving. There were many reviews complaining of short life spans. I was anal when I installed the Silver Stars, to the point of wearing rubber gloves. I know "back-in-the-day" there were motorcycle bulbs, and then there were car bulbs. But those were halogens, so....
Cyclops replacement LED headlight bulb kit for Teneres
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Madhatter
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I guess I will know the answer after I install the new bulbs , so here is the question. are the light chambers separate and sealed from one another? where one side could get hotter than the other.....I have changed bulbs but never thought to see if they are separated...
Madhatter said:
Not waterproof from each other but effectively separate.
I'm pretty convinced that the reason that many of these bikes are bulb killers is that they run higher voltage than other models. Add fractions of a volt and you are adding watts of heat energy.
Xclimation
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One thing I noticed when installing and experimenting with my Nighteye LEDs.
I had the stock incandescent on one side and the Nighteye bulb in the other. If you put your hand in front of the lens on the incandescent side with standing in front of the bike; you can feel heat.
Where on the LED side no heat from the front; but the heat sink behind the bulb was hot.
I had the stock incandescent on one side and the Nighteye bulb in the other. If you put your hand in front of the lens on the incandescent side with standing in front of the bike; you can feel heat.
Where on the LED side no heat from the front; but the heat sink behind the bulb was hot.
Cycledude
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When I was using stock bulbs when one bulb burned out it was only a few hundred miles later when the other one burned out which seems pretty normal to me.
I've only got about 5,000 miles on the Cyclops kit and thankfully no failure yet, but wow they light things up about 10 times better than the stock setup did !
I've only got about 5,000 miles on the Cyclops kit and thankfully no failure yet, but wow they light things up about 10 times better than the stock setup did !
So, what is the consensus of how long the standard/OE bulbs last? But, didn't I see something about the Cyclops bulb(s) not fitting correctly in the OE housing? The light quantity & quality does seem to be superior.
Madhatter
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I finally read the whole thread..... this has been going on for a few years so there should be good honest information on the cyclops LED bulbs.... these are my thoughts so far .... 175.00 for a pair of LED headlight replacement bulbs is a great deal....I just bought a replacement set of halogens for 38.00 that might last six months .... the package says 150 hours...so if the LED could last there 30000 hour life they are indeed a bargain ....if 15000 hours they are a bargain.... at 1500 hours they will have lasted 10 times as long as traditional halogens ... a bargain... hard to install seems to be a small problem , are they properly oriented so the light shines like it should seems to be another... what is causing left side bulb failure , could be heat , could be vibration, could be a voltage issue.... more information from others who have bought the cyclops would be a great help in determining what the cause could be...some are thrilled about the lights performance others not so much, maybe some need to reorient there LEDS for proper function, maybe .... I am as others are big fan of the tech... it is amazing.... another thing I have noticed in this thread is that the company, Cyclops , seems to be doing their best at standing behind their products, a very good thing.... I love my tenere ,and am planning to keep it a long long time, would just like to see where I am going after dark... maybe Yamaha could spend a little bit of our money and come up with a LED head light that actually puts light on the road.... till then honest evaluation of products helps our fellow s10 owners enjoy the fruits of their labors( FARKLING) ..... it seem the majority that have purchased the cyclops like them..... when the LED has failed , for what ever reason, not so much ( I am thinking its more a bike thing than a product thing ie: left side failures .) so please continue sharing your ideas or thoughts on this subject.... if its heat I have an idea I will share at a latter time maybe this weekend or tomorrow morning .....
Tenman
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if it is vibration killing my cyclops. maybe a rubber gasket between the bulb and the housing will help. i'm gonna give it a try.
Cycledude
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I don't understand the talk about the Cyclops kit not fitting properly, following the installation instructions mine seem to fit fine.
After all the complaints about the very lousy stock headlights I suspect Yamaha might come out with a better headlight someday for new Tenere's but it most likely won't be any help to current Tenere owners. So far I have been very satisfied with my Cyclops kit.
After all the complaints about the very lousy stock headlights I suspect Yamaha might come out with a better headlight someday for new Tenere's but it most likely won't be any help to current Tenere owners. So far I have been very satisfied with my Cyclops kit.
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Gigitt
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Add me to the left side Cyclops LED Bulb Failure. Mine has done about 12-15,000 km and the 2 LEDs themselves seemed to burnt and look brown rather than than Yellow. Brightness diminished slowly and it was not till i started seeing a purple coloured tenere lens that I looked at the brightness proper and saw that i was down about 75% brightness in that bulb. Cyclops did warranty it out. But now I have a new 4000 lumen on the left and old 3200 lumen bulb on the right.
Ok so compared to halogen bulbs, vibration would have little affect on the LED bulbs physically - left side projector does not vibrate more that the right side!!!
Voltage should also not be an issue as the LED bulbs are usually multi voltage and operate from 9-20V typically. Cyclops do not give you specifics.
If you use the supplied Cyclops caps, then overheating is not an issue as I have ridden in 45degC temps without issues. Yes the bulbs fan heatsink get hot, but there is nought ambient air inside the headlight housing to keep them cool. Also the projectors inside the headlight are not separately seal as asked previously - so the both bulbs are in the same enclosed environment sharing the same temps inside.
If anything maybe EMF interference - but you would see other issues with GPS or phone operation in that case.
Maybe there is some annoying spikes or frequency going to the left side bulb.
I might put some RF chokes on the headlight leads as a precaution.
Ok so compared to halogen bulbs, vibration would have little affect on the LED bulbs physically - left side projector does not vibrate more that the right side!!!
Voltage should also not be an issue as the LED bulbs are usually multi voltage and operate from 9-20V typically. Cyclops do not give you specifics.
If you use the supplied Cyclops caps, then overheating is not an issue as I have ridden in 45degC temps without issues. Yes the bulbs fan heatsink get hot, but there is nought ambient air inside the headlight housing to keep them cool. Also the projectors inside the headlight are not separately seal as asked previously - so the both bulbs are in the same enclosed environment sharing the same temps inside.
If anything maybe EMF interference - but you would see other issues with GPS or phone operation in that case.
Maybe there is some annoying spikes or frequency going to the left side bulb.
I might put some RF chokes on the headlight leads as a precaution.
Madhatter
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good morning all... Gigett , I mostly agree with every thing you have posted this morning.... I would find it hard to believe that vibration would cause any issue with reliability with bulbs, led or halogen ....heat , I asked the question on the light chambers sharing the air, and after looking at my bike I agree that the air temp would be the same for both bulbs in the system.... but for a moment lets say it is heat and its a bit hotter on the left side....what could be done if anything? you could drill a small hole in the cap and add a small bolt or wire as it would act as a heat sink extension as metal conducts heat far better than a plastic cap.... drawing the heat from the closed environment to the open air cooler environment.... I believe that the percentage of bikes that have left side failures is small ,if it were mostly a quality issue on the cyclops the right would fail as often as the left ... mystery of mysteries , forget asking a Yamaha service writer at a dealership what might be the cause , they are not able to even change a bulb ( that's another story ).... I am going to suggest that the issue is a headlight wiring harness issue, even though I have had mine replaced the replacement harness may have an issue.... there are those, even on this forum who know a lot more about how electricity works and flows than I do , current adds heat with resistance , maybe it is as simple as the connection at the bulb is a tad loose , could that cause a heat spike ? so what next , not sure other than carry a few spares around ... so I google , and I find that there are other companies that are making h7 led bulbs besides cyclops, xenon depot sells them , HIDextra has everyone but h7, so maybe soon there will be alternatives to cyclops, check them out... and what about HID for our bikes , 2500 to 4000 hour lifespan on the HID , same heat output as halogen bulbs , has anyone tried them.... there are plug and play kits from the companies just mentioned and others... prices all about the same as cyclops to half the price , and you can choose the light color "K" .... I think or I may try to go HID, seems like a doable option or maybe just get another wiring harness and see if that helps... sooner or later someone will find the answer to our questions.........
Davesax36
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Guys. Will someone please test the running voltage at the lights? I think that is the problem with blowing bulbs. Mine reads 15V. I think this is why we're all blowing higher wattage halogens and must be contributing to the failure of the leds as well.
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My left side cyclops died too
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Bryce
Ya, Whatever!
for those with Left side Cyclops LEDs going out:
are you on a Gen 1 or Gen 2 bike?
If a Gen 1, did you get the Headlight Harness Recall done (did your bike need it)?
My set are in the mail from Rock Mountain ATV and MC (in stock and 10% off from them right now).
are you on a Gen 1 or Gen 2 bike?
If a Gen 1, did you get the Headlight Harness Recall done (did your bike need it)?
My set are in the mail from Rock Mountain ATV and MC (in stock and 10% off from them right now).
Gigitt
Active Member
Im on a 2015 Gen 2
Bryce
Ya, Whatever!
I guess that it's nothing Gen1 or Gen2 specific then. bummer.Gigitt said:
Speedtrap
New Member
I put a set of the Cyclops in my Gen 2 last fall and have been very happy with them. Liked them so much in fact that I added their Optimus Long Range auxiliary lights too. Very, very happy now!
Mine is a Gen 1, the headlight harness was replaced but had not failed. Pretty strange that's its only the left that goes out. My wife rides a F700 and we put Cyclops bulbs in hers at the same time, her low beam did the same thing 2 weeks before mine faded. I went with all new of the brighter ones they sell now, they really are very bright and I think even with a shorter life than we hoped for, that they are a good choice.