Cyclops replacement LED headlight bulb kit for Teneres

[Gigitt]

I ask because of their statement "high and low beam".

Now more powerful for 2017
This LED upgrade kit for the Yamaha Super Tenere uses the Cyclops 4000 lumen H7 LED bulbs (high and low beam) and includes two new caps. Instant on LED performance with proper beam patterns for your S10.

I see where you getting a bit confused... S10 does not have separate hi and low beam headlights like other 2 headlight bikes. Instead S10 have is a dual projector headlight. each projector is the same and provided low and high beam light output.

 

[EricV]

Thanks for the comprehensive correction. ::003::

Should have double checked, instead of going off my old HID system description.

This is Tomatocity's 2nd S10, iirc. Pretty sure he knows about the one bulb for both hi/low. ;D

 

[Gigitt]

Thanks for the comprehensive correction. ::003::

Should have double checked, instead of going off my old HID system description.

This is Tomatocity's 2nd S10, iirc. Pretty sure he knows about the one bulb for both hi/low. ;D

Well half right...

HID come is 2 basic system, reflector (in older Lexus and Mercs which might use a bulb movement to allow for low/high beam) and Projectors (common now)
HID Projectors can be fixed low beam or Bi-Xenon which have a shutter to allow low and high beam in one light.

the S10 headlight works like the HID Bi-Xenon projector... difference is the housing accepting and designed to work with HID bulb or H7 halogen bulb.

 

[EricV]

I said my old HID system. Moto conversion on a H4 FJR. Nice try anyway. Some bi-xenon systems use magnetic movement of the bulb to create hi/low instead of the shutter. I had that type of system on the conversion kit I used on the FJR.

In regards to the S10, LED has a lot of benefits, but beam cast is still a challenge. Rear facing designs look interesting, but we are not likely to see that in a conversion kit. The Cyclops is probably the best of the current crop. Others here have used a different kit with flexible heat sinks instead of the fan system, tucking it all in with the stock weather caps on.

 

[tomatocity]

Thank you Eric. Of course I know how the headlight high / low works on the Tenere. If I understand the Cyclops bulb has a constant output as the stock H7 bulb does. So why does Cyclops list their bulb as high / low beam? Yamaha provides the high low and Cyclops provides the light.

 

[EricV]

Thank you Eric. Of course I know how the headlight high / low works on the Tenere. If I understand the Cyclops bulb has a constant output as the stock H7 bulb does. So why does Cyclops list their bulb as high / low beam? Yamaha provides the high low and Cyclops provides the light.

Its just marketing so people know they will maintain hi/low beam compatibility. Yes, as I understand it, the Cyclops 'bulb' is constant output. You would need more to make it a dimmable output device than what appears to come in the kit. They make no reference to dimming features either.

HID kits were often sold as "low beam only" for motorcycles when some of the bi-xenon kits were pretty flaky. This might be why they describe their kit as they do.

Some riders would choose to install low beam only kits, then run aux lights wired as high beams. Because HID lights are also single output per unit, this eliminated the potential for a failure due to vibration of those early shutter designs. The magnetic movement of the 'bulb' proved to be more stable in the conversion kit market.

 

[Gigitt]

HID is only good for Low beam or constant-on low with switched high beam application (flip shield mag in/out movement)

Why they only sold kits with one HID for motorcycles is HID in High beam only housing kills them and is dangerous!!!
HID bulbs take too long to activate until they produce light that is usable. 2-3 sec to ignite flash and arc... then to reach constant temp output can be 30sec when cold but much faster when already warm. But the biggest issue is start cycles... HID's systems don't like to be constantly flicked on and off and would kill ballasts and igniters. This may have changed since electronic ballasts and igniters are used and the price had dropped to rock bottom so who cares now.

You want constant fast light output for high beams, once that car has passed you are in a black hole and 2-3 secs is a long time to see again. You can see the power up of halogens in that 0.1-.0.3 sec startup how they brighten up to full power - and that is acceptable.

LED's are a perfect recipe as they are instant on.

 

[Cycledude]

All this talk about light spread, cutoff , projectors, on and on confuses lots of folks including me, I was very reluctant to buy the kit but once I did WOW they are GREAT !!!

 

[JRE]

While I'm spending money like a fool this season, I'm going to go ahead and order these. I did find a promo code online "ADV" that gives 5% ($8.80) off...covers a chunk of shipping cost anyway. ::008::

 

[Gigitt]

While I'm spending money like a fool this season, I'm going to go ahead and order these. I did find a promo code online "ADV" that gives 5% ($8.80) off...covers a chunk of shipping cost anyway. ::008::

Rocky Mountain ATV sells them also - but ATM stock is not the new 4000 lumen ones - they sell 10% off and cheapest shipping in the world for us Down Under!!!!!

 

[SilverBullet]

Rocky Mountain ATV sells them also - but ATM stock is not the new 4000 lumen ones - they sell 10% off and cheapest shipping in the world for us Down Under!!!!!

I wonder if their website just hasn't been updated yet. They typically don't carry much stock and drop ship from the mfg often. Worth a call.

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[Gigitt]

I wonder if their website just hasn't been updated yet. They typically don't carry much stock and drop ship from the mfg often. Worth a call.

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Maybe... but i ordered my S10 Cyclops kit 2-3 weeks before the 4000lm version was released... so I missed out! They did have kits in stock when I ordered.
I wish they stock other parts from cyclops... I got the Optimus lights thru Rocky Mountains ATV, but still have to get the skene controller and lenses from Cyclops.

 

[JRE]

RMATV is the bomb...they are my preferred online vendor for MC stuff. They always ship fast, generally have competitive pricing and their customer service is very good ::008::

I used to order a lot from Motorcycle Superstore but their service and order turnaround times have gone downhill.

 

[WJBertrand]

RMATV is the bomb...they are my preferred online vendor for MC stuff. They always ship fast, generally have competitive pricing and their customer service is very good ::008::

I used to order a lot from Motorcycle Superstore but their service and order turnaround times have gone downhill.

I like Rocky Mountain as well, for all the reasons you mentioned. I too used to order a lot from MC superstore, they were one of the few places offering free shipping when ordering only one tire. For whatever reason, they and Revzilla have both started adding California sales tax to my orders. Rocky Mountain so fas has not.


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[HeliMark]

I like Rocky Mountain as well, for all the reasons you mentioned. I too used to order a lot from MC superstore, they were one of the few places offering free shipping when ordering only one tire. For whatever reason, they and Revzilla have both started adding California sales tax to my orders. Rocky Mountain so fas has not.


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California in its money grabbing way has required any online business to collect state taxes if said business has a store or even just a warehouse in the state. Amazon got caught up on that also. Think Revzilla got nailed when Cycle Gear bought them out.

Mark

 

[JRE]

Yeah, I rarely ever check with Revzilla anymore. We are fortunately here in the states to have so many etailer choices.

 

[JRE]

... what are you doing to keep from blinding the oncoming vehicles and the vehicles in front of you?

Logic would say your statement above should be true but it's not. The Cyclops kit does eliminate the stock low beam sharp cutoff. I believe it is due to the positioning of the LED chips on the bulb assembly. They are positioned 1 o'clock and 7 o'clock.

Given the above question and subsequent clarification that the light cutoff is modified, it didn't really get answered. Have people had issues with too much overspill of light on oncoming traffic or can it be adjusted enough to eliminate/mitigate this? I partially installed them (need to tuck in the wires/module - too damn cold in the garage to have patience doing this) but I will probably wrap it up over the holiday weekend when it warms up and want to have an expectation of how much monkeying with adjustments I'll need to do.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Given the above question and subsequent clarification that the light cutoff is modified, it didn't really get answered. Have people had issues with too much overspill of light on oncoming traffic or can it be adjusted enough to eliminate/mitigate this? I partially installed them (need to tuck in the wires/module - too damn cold in the garage to have patience doing this) but I will probably wrap it up over the holiday weekend when it warms up and want to have an expectation of how much monkeying with adjustments I'll need to do.

I've been following the thread and can't say that my cut-off line of light has changed much. The line is a bit less defined but it's still where the OEM bulb had it. I know that some people reported needing adjustment after installing the Cyclops bulbs, but I didn't need to. Have had exactly zero cars flash me about my headlight, either.

 

[tomatocity]

I've been following the thread and can't say that my cut-off line of light has changed much. The line is a bit less defined but it's still where the OEM bulb had it. I know that some people reported needing adjustment after installing the Cyclops bulbs, but I didn't need to. Have had exactly zero cars flash me about my headlight, either.

Do you have the 3200 or 4000 bulbs?

 

[Checkswrecks]

Hmmmm yeah - one of those.


Seriously, going only by memory of price I think they are the 4000 lumen.