cut off by tractor trailer

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As I was leaving work this afternoon a tractor trailer failed to yield the right of way to me going straight. He had to have been going 30mph. Needless to say I managed to get the bike whoaed up in the middle of the intersection while the truck shot passed me and my bike was tipping over. I was pissed! I'm a cdl driver myself and would never drive my company truck like that. Never stopped, nobody even attempted to help me (I was in the middle of a busy Baltimore intersection.) My altrider bars worked as did my Jesse's. A couple of missing paint chips and a sore back. Just had to vent.

 

[OldRider]

There's a whole different breed of truck driver out there these days.

 

[jdk2man]

theres a whole different breed of people out there.

 

[tomatocity]

Good to hear you were not hurt and the Tenere survived reasonably well. The first time I tipped my Tenere over the person behind helped pick it up. Couldn't thank him enough.

 

[rem]

There are individuals out there who just don't like bikes/bikers. They resent the fact that they are on the road with them. No Rem nor reason to it. They won't yield, won't slow down, just flat don't care if you get whacked or not. Hard to figure. We're such a sweet group …. collectively …. mostly ….. pretty much. Not much a guy can do about it. Move on. I'm sure glad you didn't come out worse. Let's be careful out there. R

 

[Madhatter]

::009:: the problem with trucking is the government.... in an effort to make the industry safer, rules and regulations have been established that tend to remove experienced older drivers (for health reasons). a driving job is a desk job on wheels, after 20,30 years sitting there your not going to be all that healthy... DOT physicals are harder to pass and getting harder... the rules allow employers to work a driver up to 15 hours a day with 8 hours off between shifts, how can any one maintain good health habits on a schedule as this, you cant... with 38 years of experience in class 8 trucks (accident free) I know a little bit about the job...a young driver thinks he knows , but what ever the vehicle that is being operated by a new in experienced operator there are going to be problems with that young operator... the secret to driving safely these larger heavy dangerous vehicles is again experience.... it takes 5 years at least before (this is my opinion)a new driver starts to come into his professional zone of ability . its about reading traffic, knowing what others might do before they do it, looking ahead not just in distance , but in knowledge that only experience can give him... and new guys don't have it..... I tell everyone I care about to stay away from trucks . don't ride by them anything can happen at any time. ever see one blow a tire , will ruin your day in a second... they have a hard and lonely job, they do the best they can, they(young ones at least) just are not there yet...and the good ones are greeters at walmart now...they built a toll road in Austin texas that goes around the town. the purpose of the toll was to get traffic off I-35 , mainly the big trucks... so now every town that touches the toll road has their police force pulling trucks over for inspection( trying to keep us safe)....toll road cost a lot to use, and now the police are writing tickets...so what is the problem with that, we all want safe vehicles on our roads...trucks are staying on I-35, its free...I-35 is no better than it ever was...drive down the toll get a ticket for a safety violation and pay toll, or drive I-35 get a ticket and not pay toll , do the math...as an owner your going to make your drivers take the free route... government tries but they make things worse at times.. in Austin they are trying to figure out why trucks will not use the toll......that driver was not trying to get you, he was operating at his experience level, you can thank the DOT for that....

 

[AVGeek]

Madhatter, I can appreciate your frustration, but I think we can all agree to keep "political" posts to a minimum and in The Debate Room.

Thanks!

 

[HHH]

OP, I am sorry to what happened to you.

Madhatter, I can appreciate your frustration, but I think we can all agree to keep "political" posts to a minimum and in The Debate Room.

Thanks!

I honestly didn't see this coming, you reprimanded Madhatter's post just because he mentioned the word "Government"?! :-[

I only read his own opinion about the DOT rules and consequences of such based on his own experience, but who am I, maybe I need to read posts with moderator's eyes to see between the lines.

 

[rem]

I'm loving this. ::014:: Remember, a lot of you asked for more diligent moderation of the Forum. Judgement calls have to be made.


It's great to be a "civilian". And so it begins ….. Good luck, Bryan and Chris. ::025:: ::025:: R

 

[Madhatter]

avgeek, nothing political about my post. simply my opinion on what is wrong with the trucking industry... that was the topic more or less, driver nearly runs down one of our brother riders... and the jist of the question was what is wrong with drivers etc. I simply gave an explanation based on my experience . almost 40 years, close to 3,000,000 million miles accident free... and at the risk of being political since im being chastised by you... government is a necessary evil who really doesn't do anything well... its why we have a constitution ... you can not trust drivers when your on your tenere, when your driving your car you still cant trust them.... im not accident free for no reason.... just trying to help keep people and I am people too , alive..... and I did not call anyone any names, did not blame a political party, I was on topic, so why would I post in the debate room?

 

[AVGeek]

I thought there was a lot of good information in Madhatter's post, which is why I left it. What I have seen in the past (here and on other boards) is other members pile on after a post like that with everything that is wrong with government, political parties, etc. and I know we want to keep this board neutral in that regard.

I didn't post a warning just because of the word "government"; as Rem said, we have to make judgement calls, and there was something about the content and tone that I felt warranted my post. I may have addressed Madhatter, but my post was also a reminder to all members reading this thread to consider how you say things as much as what you say.

 

[rem]

Having just come off of Moderator status, my comments will likely be biased. I get that.


The moderators have been receiving private emails over the last little while, spurred primarily by a couple of rather person conflicts taking place on this Forum. General consensus of Venture and the moderators has been to intervene as little as possible, in hopes that the various threads would resolve and fade away quietly. We began receiving emails asking us (them) to begin to take a more active role and not give them a chance to accelerate and evolve.


So, in order to attempt to address those expressed concerns, more diligence is required, and calls have to be made. Judgements have to be made. They won't all be perfect, and on occasion they may even be the wrong call. But all moderator decisions and comments are always with the good intention of keeping the Forum a peaceful and friendly place.


I think 'Geek's comment was of consummate politeness (as all of his comments are), and addressed a concern that it MIGHT invite additional comments regarding the role of government, policies, etc. It was a fair concern, in my humble, biased opinion. He was simply responding to Forum concerns expressed by many of you.


Please work with them on this matter. It's not an easy task to walk the fine line between under- and over- intervention. Please take his comment in the spirit in which it was offered.


Don't make me have to come down there. DON'T MAKE ME HAVE TO COME DOWN THERE. Nobody wants that. Well, my wife would enjoy my being gone but …. I digress.


Freezing here. Go ahead, laugh ….. To those of you who can still ride, let's be careful out there. R ::021::

 

[HHH]

I didn't read "Government" as a political remark, instead, I read as DOT the division that regulates (governs) the truck drivers and their equipment.
Just like here, the moderators govern the forum.
As far as AVgeek post saying he just gave a warning instead deleting the post, well, IMHO, he should wait if it would escalate, then delete the post and PM the outlaw poster giving his reasons of such measure was taken.
Acting the way he did, he opened the door for a debate and subsequently, our posts are totally out of the context and became an interference of the course of this thread.

There shouldn't be a need for the moderator to post in every other thread that "he is the moderator".

 

[rem]

There shouldn't be a need for the moderator to post in every other thread that "he is the moderator".

And unsubstantiated, exaggerated comments like that are exactly why I quit being a moderator.


Have a nice day, HHH, and the rest of you as well. I guess I'll go watch the freezing rain for a while. R. ::020::

 

[HHH]

And unsubstantiated, exaggerated comments like that are exactly why I quit being a moderator.


Have a nice day, HHH, and the rest of you as well. I guess I'll go watch the freezing rain for a while. R. ::020::

Have a nice day you too REM, time to break in that rain coat and go riding...oh...watch out for trucks with bad truck drivers out there.

 

[Madhatter]

in any case, that driver that almost took out a fellow rider, was just probably texting......

 

[rem]

in any case, that driver that almost took out a fellow rider, was just probably texting......

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I'll bet you a quarter that that's exactly what was going on, MH dude. It amazes me how people survived without all that stuff 15 years ago. Or was it 30 ??? Anyway, texting and phoning and all that stuff are a serious threat to us uncaged vehiclers. Actually, they are a threat to everyone on the road. They finally made it illegal up here to do that, but it's gonna be tough catching them at it. Makes me want to take their phones and just stomp the living ratscat out of 'em. Sumbich !!! OK, I guess I'll go get on my rowing machine before I hurt myself. [/font] ::010:: Bye R

 

[AVGeek]

I didn't read "Government" as a political remark, instead, I read as DOT the division that regulates (governs) the truck drivers and their equipment.
Just like here, the moderators govern the forum.
As far as AVgeek post saying he just gave a warning instead deleting the post, well, IMHO, he should wait if it would escalate, then delete the post and PM the outlaw poster giving his reasons of such measure was taken.
Acting the way he did, he opened the door for a debate and subsequently, our posts are totally out of the context and became an interference of the course of this thread.

There shouldn't be a need for the moderator to post in every other thread that "he is the moderator".

HHH, there is a bit of a learning curve here with the change in moderation direction, so the occasional thread drift will happen as we all get used to it. I could do more work "behind the scenes", but I want the members here to know whats going on as much as possible. This a great resource and community, and I want to see it continue in that fashion.

And for the on topic portion of this post: I agree MH, probably texting and driving. Whenever I see someone driving dangerously, primarily in Phoenix, my first reaction is always "put the damn phone down and drive!" When I get past them, I am right more often than not...