Cross country rain gear????

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For a trip from Jacksonville, Fl to Deadhorse, AK what would be a good set of rain gear??? Since im in the navy i can get some Gortex but i dont think that is as comfortable as riding gear that any you guys recommend? I was looking at some 2 piece Gortex rain gear at Bass Pro Shop but i don't know what is rider friendly. :question:
 

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If you just want something to throw on over your current protection, the Frogg Toggs Road Toad suits work well. My set held up for a few years and I think I paid $50 - $60 for pants and jacket.
 

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I have Aerostitch Darien Light coat and pants.

The coat is great. I wear it rain, shine, hot, and/or cold. I use the inner liner when it gets consistently below 65F. I find it better than mesh in hot weather. And comfortable down to 25F so far. Hasn't been much colder here in Delaware lately. I've been through some heavy rain and remained dry.

The pants work well if the temperature is below 70F. Otherwise they get pretty hot. I wear mesh pants above 70F. Unfortunately I have to stop and switch if it's hot and starts to rain.

Still looking for excellent all weather pants.

If I were going on a long trip I would look into the regular Darien, not Darien Light. I heavier material of the Darien would likely survive most get-offs. The Darien Light, while more comfortable overall, is designed to be replaced after a crash.
 

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I also have a Darien Light jacket in hi viz and Darien AD1 pants. I agree that the Darien works very well hot or cold, as with the zips open, it flows a lot of air up the sleeves, into the arm pit vents and out the back. I have worn it up to 110 degrees. In cooler weather I wear my Tourmaster Synergy heated liner under the Darien, whether I need the heat on or not. I find the Darien AD1's fine in all weather. Some find them too hot in very hot weather, but that has never bothered me. With that combo and my BMW Goretex boots, I never have to stop to change costumes when the weather changes, just zip or unzip as the weather dictates.

In my case, I found several years ago that if I had a separate rain suit, if it started raining, by the time I stopped or the group stopped, I was already wet. Then when it quit raining, I would get too hot before I had a chance to pull over to take it off.
 

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Like many, I too have used AeroSTich Darien stuff which is great product. I took a leap a year or so ago and went with KLIM Lattitide jacket. STich has good venting, KLIM has better venting, as I have worn this up to 100 degree heat. I have gone to 104 with the Darien and as stated, just didn't have as much air flow as the KLIM. Same is for pants. The KLIM OVERLAND pant with the diagonal across the thigh zipper catches air and provides great movement of air. The Darien LIght doesn't do this.
The STich stuff doesn't have any liner at all on the inside, which I prefer over the KLIM. The KLIM has only a thin mesh lining to go against the skin so you are not sticking to the outer shell when sweating.
I think the service is better with STich than KLIM, and STich made in USA.

Oh, I have two pair of Darien pants for sale size XXL, one is the Lite and is Tan, the other is Gray and is the Original Darien pant. I would let each one go for $250. I am selling because I shrunk two pant sizes.

I know, why go towards either of these two? Well, you wear this stuff, you pack less. You only need to pack very light and work with layers under this stuff. No need to fuss with rain gear putting on/taking off and repeating. Take advantage of nylon type packable clothing as in pants, shorts, wicking shirts. They dry over night with a hand wash in sink or stream. Cottin jeans are heavy and take up alot more space. Wear one pair, pack one set, rotate. Take what you want, but only what you need, there is a difference in this. You will find you won't use half the stuff you think you need to take.

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Never been from Jacksonville to Alaska, but I've ridden in a lot of rain in-and-around Jacksonville and the southeast - my Klim gear has yet to let me down.

Ask Snakebitten - once you get a taste of this stuff it's hard to go back to dealing with rain gear as a separate piece of equipment - just a couple of zips and you're all nice and waterproof...
 

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Dang ... If you're starting out from Jacksonville, I'd wholeheartedly recommend the hop to Key West first. Get your forms in order for the Key West-to-Deadhorse Ironbutt qualification. http://www.ironbutt.com/ridecerts/getdocument.cfm?DocID=22] [url]http://www.ironbutt.com/ridecerts/getdocument.cfm?DocID=22[/url].

As far as a Tourmaster rainwear 2 piece set for $89.00 or a Touratech Companero set for $1495.00 I can't really comment. ... yet ... I'm going to try the cheapo stuff for this fall/winter commute and probably go with an upgrade for the long haul next spring. The gear I had on my last big trip was Joe Rocket, and the pants worked fine, but the jacket was lacking in rain protection at the neck and cuffs and rain eventually found its way in.

Good to hear of your planning!
 

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Budget will dictate a lot - you can spend $50 all the way to $2000+. I can't see Frog Toggs lasting long - in my experiences fishing, the fabric wears easy and seams tear similarly poorly. Could last you 200 miles, or 5k in the rain...all it would take is that one step over to fill up with gas and the pants are useless.

Any of Klim Latitude or Badlands, Aerostitch Darien or Rukka's Armas waterproof (Goretex (2 layers) or Goretex Pro (3 layers)) stuff is light years ahead of Frog Toggs for waterproof capabilities for 2-wheeling. But quality costs $$.

If you're on a budget and have room to pack it, my wife's goretex army jacket isn't terrible. Wash it in Nikwax 2 step treatment and go. I'm guessing that's similar to what you could get a hold of? You might look like a doomsday prepper going down the road, and it doesn't pack down well when not used. Not sure about the pants, but guessing the story is the same.
 

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Karson said:
Budget will dictate a lot - you can spend $50 all the way to $2000+. I can't see Frog Toggs lasting long - in my experiences fishing, the fabric wears easy and seams tear similarly poorly. Could last you 200 miles, or 5k in the rain...all it would take is that one step over to fill up with gas and the pants are useless.
Frogg Toggs are a budget solution for sure, but I wore my Road Toads for a good three years on and off the bike before they leaked. They are more durable than they feel on first touch. For just over $100 you can have 2 sets. They pack small so you can stow the backup. Worth hard consideration if you've got regular gear you already like. I've heard the regular outdoors suits fall apart much more easily than the road designs.

That said, once you bite the bullet for high quality gear you won't look back.
 

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I also went the cheap route and purchased a motocentric 2 piece rainsuit which works well. My plan is to wear out my current gear and then purchase waterproof protective jacket and pants like the Klim stuff.
 

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Cykel said:
Frogg Toggs are a budget solution for sure, but I wore my Road Toads for a good three years on and off the bike before they leaked. They are more durable than they feel on first touch. For just over $100 you can have 2 sets. They pack small so you can stow the backup. Worth hard consideration if you've got regular gear you already like. I've heard the regular outdoors suits fall apart much more easily than the road designs.

That said, once you bite the bullet for high quality gear you won't look back.
Couple good points - the frog togg stuff does pack down very well. And it's so cheap and packable you could bring a second set with you, or just grab another set from the nearest wal mart if/when they tear. I'm not familiar with the road toad version, but sounds like they're more stout than the regular version I was initially referring to ::008::
 

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Creggur is right.

I've ridden all my life. Got street licensed on my 15th birthday. So 40 years, barely interrupted, riding daily.

Go look at the weather and news today. See what the Houston-Galveston area is experiencing. :)

I rode today. Might be the only bike on the road in a 4,000,000 resident area.
Bone dry (except my hands) when I got to the office. And this is very new to me.

I've always been the low-mid quality gear guy. I'll spend any amount of money to get my bike(s) the way I like. But I spend very little time picking gear.
Kinda matches my street fashion prowess. Cowboy boots, Wrangler jeans, and any shirt or tea shirt that is hanging or folded in the closet.

But then a few months back a KLIM Badlands came up for sell here. Nearly BRAND NEW. And at about 50% off!
Bought it on a whim.

I don't know jack about these fancy scientific materials. But that crazy thing is just amazing. It's cool when it's hot outside. It's warm when it's cool outside. And this morning, it was no different than if I stood while someone hosed me down with a firehose. How can my tea shirt be dry? I just don't get it. It's magic.

So no more Frog Togs or rubber stuff for me. (Actually, Still using rubber pants until Creggur sells me some pants to match my jacket. :) )
 

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I have posted this other places, but from a cost cheapness to owning a Darien jacket, here it is again. Owned it for ten years, paid $400, then sold same jacket for $260. Simple math, $140/. 10 yrs = $14/ yr! How much cheaper can one go for full Gore-tex?
 

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HoebSTer said:
I have posted this other places, but from a cost cheapness to owning a Darien jacket, here it is again. Owned it for ten years, paid $400, then sold same jacket for $260. Simple math, $140/. 10 yrs = $14/ yr! How much cheaper can one go for full Gore-tex?
Thanks, HoebSTer... Not only did you make me feel better about my initial purchase (I'd never laid-out over $1000 for a jacket and pants before) - I've now got ammunition to take to the CFO when it's time to replace the stuff down the road.

Actually, all I have to do is play the "safety" card and my wife (the CFO) leaves-me-be...I just bedazzle her with phrases like: "Molecular Armor, Advanced Malleolus Protection, Super Fiber, Rip-Stop Cordura, Far Infrared Heating (being warm is safe in winter), Custom-Tuned Suspension built to my weight and riding specification, etc)... Once she understands the "safety" aspects of this stuff she encourages me to get it.

***Reality Check***
**She rolls her eyes as soon as I'm not looking, but allows me to go ahead as the bike is (and always has been) my only avocation except for a short stint when I discovered what a horrible golfer I am no matter how much I practice and play...**
 

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Hoebster, fantastic economics angle. But my wife would say "Oh really? YOU are going to SELL it someday?" , as she does a 360, standing in the middle of my man-collection of a lifetime.

She's kinda right. I will either give it away, or keep it. I suck at selling.

Oh, and creggur, almost everybody sucks at golf, no matter how much they play or practice. :)
 

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We have really come a long way and gore tex has enhanced my riding enjoyment. Stop zip go. It's wonderful I'll never go back to rain suits again. Gore tex,smart phones,Bluetooth,GPS,heated grips,a reliable mount it really is the life. Good Times
 

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snakebitten said:
Hoebster, fantastic economics angle. But my wife would say "Oh really? YOU are going to SELL it someday?" , as she does a 360, standing in the middle of my man-collection of a lifetime.

She's kinda right. I will either give it away, or keep it. I suck at selling.

Oh, and creggur, almost everybody sucks at golf, no matter how much they play or practice. :)
Snake, ADVRIDER has opened up ability to sell good used stuff like the STich. For me, I could only have one jacket, so selling was the justification to get the new KLIM Lattitude.
Since I have recently lost 35 lbs and due to lose even more, the Lattitude may be for sale come spring after a year and half of use. And last night my wife tells me of a discount through her work I can get on various companies, KLIM is one of them along with Keen, Camelbak. Wow this is awesome to hear.

Jeff
 

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snakebitten said:
Hoebster, fantastic economics angle. But my wife would say "Oh really? YOU are going to SELL it someday?" , as she does a 360, standing in the middle of my man-collection of a lifetime.

She's kinda right. I will either give it away, or keep it. I suck at selling.

Oh, and creggur, almost everybody sucks at golf, no matter how much they play or practice. :)
Hey, Snake, didn't I offer you my Latitude pants? I need 34's in the Tall version (lost some weight) - got a pair of 36 regulars in gray - they're yours if you want 'em - make a brother an offer - 14,000 miles on them...

Early Christmas present for yourself...
 
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