CRASH BARS

[varacost]

Does anyone know if the sides panels can be remove with the SW-Motech crash bars (Twisted Throttle) installed? I’m trying to decide between Altrider and Twisted Throttle bars. I think the ones from Altrider are stronger and are silver color, but looks like they fit too close to the side covers. Thanks for any info.

 

[Don in Lodi]

I'm pretty sure both are designed to allow access to the electrical 'glove box', and just enough room to let you get to the tank screw on the left side. That's it.

 

[TooTall]

Check this link. Portuguese install of SW Motech Crashbars on the XT1200Z. They do the test if you can remove the side panel.

http://translate.google.be/translate?hl=nl&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fclubextportugal.forumeiro.info%2Ft710-crashbars-sw-motech-na-super-tenere-xt1200z

 

[jajpko]

Does anyone know if the sides panels can be remove with the SW-Motech crash bars (Twisted Throttle) installed? I’m trying to decide between Altrider and Twisted Throttle bars. I think the ones from Altrider are stronger and are silver color, but looks like they fit too close to the side covers. Thanks for any info.

They both will allow for the right side cover to be taken off. To take off the left side cover the both sets of bars will have to come off.
According to ALTrider, you can get to the tank bolt and tilt the tank up without removing the cover.
Also the ALTrider bar is stainless steel and the SW-Motech is mild steel. You can have the Altrider powder coated black if you wish.

 

[varacost]

Thank you all for the information. I had check with Twisted Throttle before and they said the manufacturer claims both covers can be taken off without removing the bars????

 

[twistedthrottle]

Just as an FYI mild steel is used by SW-MOTECH intentionally. It allows for some flex in the event of a bump or a crash. This helps absorb some of the energy that might otherwise snap the bar or rip a mounting bolt out of the case or frame where it is mounted.

 

[jajpko]

Thank you all for the information. I had check with Twisted Throttle before and they said the manufacturer claims both covers can be taken off without removing the bars????

The only claim I saw was that you could get to the tank bolt to tip the tank. You may want to check with them on that.

 

[TierHawg]

Just as an FYI mild steel is used by SW-MOTECH intentionally. It allows for some flex in the event of a bump or a crash. This helps absorb some of the energy that might otherwise snap the bar or rip a mounting bolt out of the case or frame where it is mounted.

Thanks for that info.

I'm liking the look of these crash bars the best, along with the fact they are made of mild steel. Are the sides of the SW-Mothech bars attached to each other the middle? And if so, how are they?

Thanks,
TH

 

[twistedthrottle]

Thanks for that info.

I'm liking the look of these crash bars the best, along with the fact they are made of mild steel. Are the sides of the SW-Mothech bars attached to each other the middle? And if so, how are they?

Thanks,
TH

They don't actually connect to each other. Here is a technical drawing of the Right hand crashbar so you can get an idea of how they are mounted:

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[TierHawg]

Thank you for the diagram. I've seen pictures of the bars with the squarish black piece in the middle. Looks like that black piece is part of the bike itself. I plan to order a set of these crashbars when it is closer to the Super Tenere being available.

 

[twistedthrottle]

Thank you for the diagram. I've seen pictures of the bars with the squarish black piece in the middle. Looks like that black piece is part of the bike itself. I plan to order a set of these crashbars when it is closer to the Super Tenere being available.

Glad I could help. Enjoy the bike.

Kev

 

[varacost]

After watching this video Super Tenere 1200 - crash test I’m postponing the purchase of any of the bars available at the moment. All of them required the removal of the stock plastic protectors because they all are attached at this point. I don’t know if the Yamaha bars also required the removal of the plastic protectors but I would prefer to keep them, they work very well according to the video. I wish someone come up with a design that maintains the plastic protectors.

 

[ptfjjj]

All of them required the removal of the stock plastic protectors because they all are attached at this point.

I hadn't decided on crash bars, yet, but I also hadn't noticed that they all required removal of the stock sliders. Good point! I don't plan to do much serious off road riding anyway, so, for now, I'll just be sticking with the stock plastic sliders.

 

[damianxt12]

I will get the ALTrider ones. it seems like they offer a lot of protection and also give an agressive look to the beast.

 

[colorider]

I hadn't decided on crash bars, yet, but I also hadn't noticed that they all required removal of the stock sliders. Good point! I don't plan to do much serious off road riding anyway, so, for now, I'll just be sticking with the stock plastic sliders.

This is where I'm leaning too. I just don't see myself getting into that serious of off road to justify the cost and added weight of crashbars on this bike.

 

[mykrysys]

Vibration....

any reports of added vibs from any ST crashbar options?

I battled this issue with my now sold Wee with Givi bars.

 

[twistedthrottle]

After watching this video I’m postponing the purchase of any of the bars available at the moment. All of them required the removal of the stock plastic protectors because they all are attached at this point. I don’t know if the Yamaha bars also required the removal of the plastic protectors but I would prefer to keep them, they work very well according to the video. I wish someone come up with a design that maintains the plastic protectors.

I have no doubt the original frame slider does a pretty good job in certain crashes. The crash bar provides more protection area for more types of crashes and provides more support for harder crashes. In this particular crash it might not make a big difference. In the crash someone else has it might make a huge difference. There are some valuable and necessary components hidden underneath those plastics. One small bar will not protect those items. This brings up the decades old debate: Frame Sliders vs. Crash Bars.

Framesliders - Work remarkably well on flat predictable surfaces (such as paved roads) where it always lands on one optimal point that will protect most of the bike. If you plan to always ride the streets and there are few technical turns, barriers or boulders or elevation changes then sliders are the right choice.

Crashbars - One major point (also obvious), is the crash bar simply covers more area. This bike is going to be taken off-road where there is no flat surface to drive or crash on. In off-road riding there is a very good chance you will not land on this one point and you will damage something expensive.

Also guys... we've all gone down harder than that. If you watch the crash again you will notice the bike slides less than 10 feet. Not exactly a traumatic fall. The rider practically walked off of the bike. mykrysys - Please don't consider this a personal attack or a reason to cite facts back and fourth. You may want to reconsider your thoughts on trusting that one little bar to protect the whole side of the bike. I can only speak for the SW-MOTECH crashbars but they actually replace the plastic bar with a steel one. Plastic vs. steel in a crash - I will take steel all the way.

Kev

 

[colorider]

Good points Kev! For obvious reasons, I use frame sliders on my FJR and had (before I sold it) crash bars on my KLR. At this early stage (NO BIKE), I still don't know if I will go with crash bars on the SuperT or rely on the frame sliders for protection. I don't plan on doing any serious off-road stuff, but will ride fire roads and such when the mood strikes me. I'm guessing less than 5% of my riding will be "off pavement". Does that justify the cost and weight? Only I can answer that.............

 

[TierHawg]

I need crash bars to protect the bike from me. Like when I forget to put the kickstand down and dismount. :'(

Please tell me I'm not the only one who's done that. ???

 

[rem]

Heh heh. Well, let's not let this get around, but ........ and in a crowded parking lot, too. It's hard to be cool when you do something like that. Whip out your camera and ask someone to take your picture while you get it upright again. Tell them you're working on a "how to" manual. R