Clutch Basket Change Really Does Make a Difference

[Hungry Tiger]

Besides dealing with vibration/shudder issues, the new clutch basket-primary driven gear also gives MUCH more solid throttle-to-rear wheel connectivity as you don't have to wind up the old design spring plate.

 

[BravoBravo]

Besides dealing with vibration/shudder issues, the new clutch basket-primary driven gear also gives MUCH more solid throttle-to-rear wheel connectivity as you don't have to wind up the old design spring plate.

Excellent point. I have noticed that as well. The bike is uber smooth, and there is no jerkiness in throttle application at all anymore.

Bruce

 

[jbrown]

The vibration issue is very subjective. One guy's silky smooth may be another guy's foot massage.
I came from 15 years of using my '95 VFR750 as a daily driver. The S10's big twin is so different from that vfour that I didn't really know what to expect. While the S10 is certainly smoother than the series of '60s and '70s small twins I've had in the past, I really can't call it smooth. I noticed some footpeg shake in the 3,000 - 3,500 rpm range that did go away with slight pressure on the clutch, so when the opportunity appeared to get the cheap 2014 basket, I did.

The footpeg shake pretty much went away with the new basket, but I think there's a little more handlebar tingle at 3,500 to 4,000 rpm. I'd classify the change as "different", not so much a spectacular improvement. I suspect that the felt-in-the-footpeg shake would have increased as time passed, so I do believe that some with high mileage will experience a big improvement in that area. I just want to caution people who don't perceive a problem expecting a gold wing smoothness after the swap. I don't think I could tell if my before or after had the new basket by riding the bike. I can tell the difference, but one is not better than the other in all characteristics.

 

[firstgendsm]

The one thing I want fixed is roll on acceleration...especially in 6th gear doing 65-70mph and go to pass someone and it feels like I am one a unbalanced washing machine . Does this upgrade fix that issue?

 

[eemsreno]

::026:: I didn't think the vibration was too bad on mine either, but after having the new clutch basket installed, I was blown away by the difference!

Bruce

I’ll second that.

 

[eemsreno]

Excellent point. I have noticed that as well. The bike is uber smooth, and there is no jerkiness in throttle application at all anymore.

Bruce

I'll second that.

Keep it up Bruce and I won't get to say anything new on here.

 

[Bushyar15]

Okay! Calling all Metro-Denver(ish) S10 riders that have done this mod, would you be willing to let me ride your bike so I can feel the difference? I'll buy lunch! PM me if so and TIA!

 

[EricV]

The one thing I want fixed is roll on acceleration...especially in 6th gear doing 65-70mph and go to pass someone and it feels like I am one a unbalanced washing machine . Does this upgrade fix that issue?

You're loading the engine while low on the torque curve. Down shift to 5th, then roll on the throttle and you'll experience less vibes and "unbalanced" feeling. This isn't an inline 4 with more and smaller pistons, etc. The big pistons and long rods on the parallel twin kind of do that paint shaker routine when you ask sharply for more power when below 5k or so rpms.

 

[firstgendsm]

You're loading the engine while low on the torque curve. Down shift to 5th, then roll on the throttle and you'll experience less vibes and "unbalanced" feeling. This isn't an inline 4 with more and smaller pistons, etc. The big pistons and long rods on the parallel twin kind of do that paint shaker routine when you ask sharply for more power when below 5k or so rpms.

I appreciate the reply this is my first twin and I was thinking it was all the basket. I have only ever owned sport bikes and have never had to think about down shifting for passing.

 

[EricV]

Most of the basket vibes are in the 3000-3500, and for many, centered about 3200 rpms. For me, over 4k things smoothed out, but I am familiar with what you refer to. Keep in mind that nothing is going to break in regards to the clutch hub and I didn't even really notice it until after 50k miles or so. I would suggest that while the new part is an improvement, and many will notice the change, it's not really something that needs to be dealt with until it's an issue for you personally. And that might be a while.
::021::

 

[firstgendsm]

Most days the vibes don't bother me and I just bought this bike new like 2 months ago and I only have 2500 miles on it. I'm just lining up my mods first heated grips then gonna start saving for Rumbux bars and pan and then maybe basket. ::003::

 

[EricV]

The bike actually smooths out around 5-6k miles, so you should actually notice an improvement. As the motor loosens up, some of that unbalanced feeling will diminish too. Just remember that the power is not as peaky as the sport bikes, but you're cruising at a lower rpm too. I hope you continue to enjoy the S10. ::012::

 

[AKBob]

I'm sincerely not trying to be a flamer, but pulled the parts breakdown for both the 2012 and 2014 and the individual parts look identical and have the same part numbers for each component unless I do need new lenses in my glasses (possible;-)

 

[fredz43]

I'm sincerely not trying to be a flamer, but pulled the parts breakdown for both the 2012 and 2014 and the individual parts look identical and have the same part numbers for each component unless I do need new lenses in my glasses (possible;-)

2012 part PRIMARY DRIVEN GEAR
23P-16150-00-00

2014 part PRI DRVN GEAR
2BS-16150-00-00

Notice the 23P and 2BS are different.

I don't have the number for new lenses. ;D

 

[Hungry Tiger]

Maybe a +3.50 diopter?