CalSci Windshield -- Surprised

[cbennett5199]

Just got a CalSci windshield to attach to my Madstad bracket on my 2016 S10 ES. After reading threads here and on advrider.com, I was sure that the windshield would fit on the bracket, no problem. That's one reason why I bought a non-Madstad windshield. But... it doesn't fit. What did I miss? And does this mean I have to use only Madstad shields?
Thanks

 

[Longdog Cymru]

Maybe, just maybe, you have a screen for a Gen 1 S10, the 2010-2014 model and you have a Gen 2 bike. I guess we would need to see some photos?

 

[Sierra1]

Maybe, just maybe, you have a screen for a Gen 1 S10, the 2010-2014 model and you have a Gen 2 bike. . . .

I has to be. Or a Madstad for a Gen 1. (actually 2010-2013) 'Cuz, if the OE windshield fits the Madstad. . . . and, the CalSci the OE bracket. . . . the CalSci has to fit the Madstad. . . . right?

 

[cbennett5199]

I don't have the oem shield. Bought the bike a few years ago with a madstad bracket and shield. Since the bike is a 2016 I assumed it's gen 2. Had another madstad shield on it but it busted a few weeks ago. Wanted to try something nicer like the calsci.

 

[MFP]

I don't have the oem shield. Bought the bike a few years ago with a madstad bracket and shield. Since the bike is a 2016 I assumed it's gen 2. Had another madstad shield on it but it busted a few weeks ago. Wanted to try something nicer like the calsci.

'16 is a GEN2.
Perhaps the CalSci you purchased is for a GEN1.

 

[tallpaul]

'16 is a GEN2.
Perhaps the CalSci you purchased is for a GEN1.

Sounds like it to me. I have a 2016 with a madstad but fitted with a stock gen2 screen. I would expect any other gen2 screen to fit it.

 

[Sierra1]

Is there a difference in the Madstad between Gen 1 & 2? Either way, there's a Gen 1 something in the mix.

 

[sbsmith70]

I installed a Cal-Sci on my '18 S10 yesterday. Fits perfectly. Call Mark Lawrence at Cal-Sci. He will
figure it out and treat you right.

 

[Madhatter]

cal - science is a great windshield , your going to like it .

 

[EricV]

Remember that the OEM windscreen mount, under the Gen II adjuster, is the same for Gen I and II. For reasons only Yamaha knows, they changed the windscreen spacing holes on the adjuster. So Gen II windscreens have a different pattern.

You can install a Gen I or Gen II Maddstadd adjuster on either a Gen I or II Super Ten. However, you need to know what Gen your Maddstadd adjuster is to know what Gen screen you need to mount to it so the bolt pattern of the screen matches.

 

[Don in Lodi]

I've kind of always thought the Madstad for the Gen II had you take off the the adjustable Gen II stuff to get back to a basic mounting point. Kind of strange to put an adjustable after market mount on top of an adjustable mount. Though I guess they would change the spacing so you still use the Gen II screen. Anyway, it's real close to 8.25" center to center over the arc on a Gen I screen.

 

[EricV]

I've kind of always thought the Madstad for the Gen II had you take off the the adjustable Gen II stuff to get back to a basic mounting point. Kind of strange to put an adjustable after market mount on top of an adjustable mount. Though I guess they would change the spacing so you still use the Gen II screen. Anyway, it's real close to 8.25" center to center over the arc on a Gen I screen.

You're correct, you do take off the OEM Gen II adjuster to use a Madstad adjuster. It's just that the "basic mounting point" as you call it, is the same on both Gens. So if you could buy a used Gen I Madstad with a screen for cheap, it will fit on either a Gen I or Gen II bike. That's likely what occured with the '16 bike here.

My Gen II bike came used to me with a Madstad adjuster and a HUGE barn door of a Madstad screen. I hated it and couldn't get the buffeting to stop, no matter how I adjusted it. I took it off and installed my Gen I Med CalSci screen on the Gen II and returned to blissfull smooth air.

In my case, the Madstad was a Gen II unit. The windscreen spacing was Gen II. The buyer of my Gen I bike wanted the MadStad adjuster, but not the barn door screen. The Gen II Madstad fit perfectly on the Gen I bike, but I had to drill some new holes in the stock Gen I screen to mount it to the Gen II Madstad adjuster. Last I heard that rider was still running that combo as it worked well for him.

If you wanted to mount a Madstad adjuster on an OEM Gen II adjuster, you'd have to modify the mounting holes on one of them to fit. Then use what ever screen the Madstad fit. Well, I suppose if you got really crazy, it's possible to mount the Gen I Madstad on the bottom and the Gen II Yamaha adjuster on top, then mount a Gen II windscreen w/o having to drill any new holes.