billyp
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Anyone replace rear brake pads with under 20,000 miles? Failed inspection today.Never had to do it this soon.
SilverBullet said:So then if you use the rear pedal after squeezing the front lever you are over applying the rear.
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Sierra1 said:Whaaaat? I'm not sure that how it works. You are correct as far as the linked braking is concerned. But I only consider it an "over application" when a wheel locks. Sometimes I need all the brake I can get.
Somewhat, but not to a huge degree. The linked brakes do mean that riders that take shorter trips, or more urban trips where they are applying the brakes more times, will wear the rear pads more quickly. That is because they are being applied every time you brake, even if you only use the front brake lever, due to the linked nature of the brakes. The proportion of rear brake applied is related to load and speed. If you use the rear brake first, yes it will disengage the linking, BUT, it will return if you brake hard enough up front to pass what ever threshold the proportioning valve is at with the rear brake pressure you are applying. IOW, just because you lightly hit the rear brake first, then grab a handful up front, you will still engage linked braking the the hard use of the front will cause increased rear pressure, regardless of what your pressure on the foot pedal is. At least that's how I interpret the FSM's description of the system.RCinNC said:I think the S10 is just hard on rear pads.
Front-FA380HHFennellg said:Anybody know the part numbers for front and rear EBC pads?
Mellow said:29,000 and I just replaced my rear pads on my 2014... the fronts look like they are still at 90% of original thickness... I guess I downshift a lot..
I imagine that's another reason that my rear brakes may wear faster than others'. I ride two up a lot, and I'm often carrying stuff for two people. I'm sure that increases the rear braking load, even when I'm only using the front. However, I can compare the wear rate on the S10 rear pads to that of my old V-Strom and, before that, my Harley Road King, since I rode those two bikes in much the same manner as I do the Yamaha. Now, neither one of those had linked brakes, so they aren't an exact comparison, but I didn't go through as many sets of rear brakes on either one of those as fast as I do on the S10. That leads me to the conclusion that the S10 is harder on rear brake pads than the other two bikes I've done a lot of long distance riding on because of the linked braking system. I've always been more of a front braker, even when I didn't have ABS. Now, when I brake with the front, the rear is engaging every time; something that didn't happen with my other bikes. That's why I said that the S10 is hard on rear pads; I should have been more specific, that it was harder on rear pads than other bikes I've ridden under the same conditions.EricV said:Somewhat, but not to a huge degree. The linked brakes do mean that riders that take shorter trips, or more urban trips where they are applying the brakes more times, will wear the rear pads more quickly. That is because they are being applied every time you brake, even if you only use the front brake lever, due to the linked nature of the brakes. The proportion of rear brake applied is related to load and speed. If you use the rear brake first, yes it will disengage the linking, BUT, it will return if you brake hard enough up front to pass what ever threshold the proportioning valve is at with the rear brake pressure you are applying. IOW, just because you lightly hit the rear brake first, then grab a handful up front, you will still engage linked braking the the hard use of the front will cause increased rear pressure, regardless of what your pressure on the foot pedal is. At least that's how I interpret the FSM's description of the system.
I run heavy load most of the time I ride. Panniers always on, fuel cell always on, gallon water jug always on and usually full. I often have full bags and fuel cell. At 108k I am on my second set of rear pads and, (just looked), am about half way thru them. But, the only time you see my brake light is if I'm coming to a stop. I ride The Pace and don't commute. Most of my riding is going places, a.k.a. touring or travel, not local riding.
By comparison, my '04 FJR needed it's first new pads at something like 90k, and I use both brakes, all the time. But that bike didn't have linked brakes, (I did have the ABS model).
RC, give the EBC HH a try next set. You may be pleasantly surprised. 40K miles with my last 2 sets.RCinNC said:I imagine that's another reason that my rear brakes may wear faster than others'. I ride two up a lot, and I'm often carrying stuff for two people. I'm sure that increases the rear braking load, even when I'm only using the front. However, I can compare the wear rate on the S10 rear pads to that of my old V-Strom and, before that, my Harley Road King, since I rode those two bikes in much the same manner as I do the Yamaha. Now, neither one of those had linked brakes, so they aren't an exact comparison, but I didn't go through as many sets of rear brakes on either one of those as fast as I do on the S10. That leads me to the conclusion that the S10 is harder on rear brake pads than the other two bikes I've done a lot of long distance riding on because of the linked braking system. I've always been more of a front braker, even when I didn't have ABS. Now, when I brake with the front, the rear is engaging every time; something that didn't happen with my other bikes. That's why I said that the S10 is hard on rear pads; I should have been more specific, that it was harder on rear pads than other bikes I've ridden under the same conditions.
Yes!.. absolutely!... I don't care to ride the bike to/from work or any short trips to stores and such, it will sit for a month then I'll take a 2k mile road trip.. I get in the 42-44 mpg range typically.Sierra1 said:Holy crap! I use engine braking quite a bit too, but that kind of mileage is phenomenal. I would hazard a guess that there is a lot of highway, and very little city, miles on that bike. You probably get good gas mileage too.
All years and models of S10 use the same brake pads F&R.Fennellg said:Go the part numbers, thanks will they fit a 15 ES? EBC s web site sucks amazon says they won't fit.