Battery

Jeff Milleman

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Down here in sunny South Florida the heat works a battery so after 3 years I installed a 14 series witch is about 20 amp's more then the 12 . The 12 was starting the s10 ok but when it was hot it would hesitate and what a difference . Cranks fast and no hesitation , I'll take it to work and load test it but 3-4 years is about the time limit here . If you need a battery go for the 14 series !!
 

tuonodave

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A XTZ-14S instead of the stock XTZ-12S (Yuasa) battery. Same battery case size but more cranking amps. I've done the same and very happy with the noticeable increase in cranking power.
 

2daMax

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Have not tested the CCA on mine by my friend compared the CCA with and without capacitors, and the one with capacitors significantly increases the CCA.

Personally, I found starting the bike is fast, very fast to start. Throttle response seems better too.

Got those Caps from Aliexpress.com and they don't cost much.
 

Checkswrecks

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Batteries and caps are as different as plants and animals, or talking horsepower versus torque. Fundamentally different.


A capacitor big enough to replace a battery is going to be bigger, so not a benefit. There will be drawbacks too, in what it does to your starter motor and that much current hitting any potential resistance in the electrical path. The cap will also leak down in a matter of days.


A cap used to boost the battery's initial discharge will work, no question, and your friend's bike is an example. But it gives you nothing more than you could get out of adding that much of a lithium battery. The lithium battery will give a far better discharge curve and be more efficient in power to weight. Lithium batteries can hold a charge for years, which is one reason they are used in spacecraft. Lithium batteries have downsides which I've written about them a number of times, but if you want a faster start for less weight (in a nearly 600 lb bike?!) then Li-Ion is a better answer.


Before considering whether to add a starting bank of capacitors, research it.
 

Andylaser

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My original battery died during he recent cold weather. It had been a bit "slow" in cranking over for a couple of months and as such I had advance warning of its impending demise. I was hoping it would hold out until the 18K service, but eventually dies about a month too soon. I replaced it with the 14 series and there is a whole world of difference there. The original was a no name battery, the replacement is a Yuasa.
 

gv550

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My bike is now 25 months in service. It has always been a bit slow cranking over but has started on the first attempt, until yesterday morning. After sitting outside overnight at 6C in a motel parking lot, It cranked over even slower than normal and while cranking the right side of the instrument panel went blank. It did fire up after the fourth attempt and ran fine all day. I parked it in my garage and checked the battery connections at both ends of both wires and all were tight.
Today at home at 16C the battery voltage is 12.7, turn the ignition on and it's 12.3, while cranking it dropped to 9.8 and after starting it went to 13.4v.
I expect the original battery is nearing the end of its life so I'm looking at replacements. The Yuasa ytz14s is $222 at Fortnine here in Canada.
My question, is the right side of the display going blank a sure sign of a failing battery?
 
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Checkswrecks

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Yes. It's the drop in voltage when cranking that reduces the number of volts needed to keep the display alive. Very soon there will be too little voltage for the ECU to start the engine.
 
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