Any Apple fans out there?

[maddog5150]

So what do you think about the new iPhone? Enough new stuff to make you get a new phone?
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[digitalmoto]

Same crap, different marketing scheme. Do you have techno lust or will your honestly use those new features?

You might want to cool your jets for a couple weeks in any case. I read a blurb yesterday that said Sprint was going to get an exclusive on the new iPhone 5 with WiMax and full 4G support. The existing vendors would get iPhone 4s with a few new features (like 4G LTE aka 4G lite) but not the full upgrade to the 5 feture set. The article said Sprint had agreed to buy 30 million phones. They currently have about 25 million customers. It's a big gamble for Sprint, if it is true.

We need the Euro system where you actually buy your phone for a realistic price then you can change providers at anytime you like. None of the 2yr contract with crap service BS. If you want real change, vote with your money. Jail brake your phone and switch providers when their service or price doesn't fit your needs.

Disclaimers:
I support a small office with 6 Blackberries (3 diffierent models) and a couple iPhones. I'm thinking about getting a Win7 phone for myself because I can write apps for them and because it's cheap/free. Jail breaking doesn't work for me because my wife and I own the company and we need a stable calling plan for our employees. If it was just the two of us, I'd jail break something in a heartbeat.

 

[rem]

I have been an Apple (Mac) computer user basically since day one. I remember when 1 MB of RAM was a really bg deal. I have never owned a PC. I have also never owned an iPhone. Coverage up here is poor and I hate cell phones anyway. Just an old guy thing. But I am a serious Mac user. It is the Apple of my eye. R

 

[Buckeye56]

So what do you think about the new iPhone? Enough new stuff to make you get a new phone?
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Not at this time. We have iPhone 3s and they work just fine, probably make the jump next year. The integration of the Siri technology is interesting.

 

[AVGeek]

Not yet...I have a 3GS, and IIRC most of the new features are actually a function of iOS5, which will be available on my phone. I see the lack of true 4G as a deal breaker, but I also know that 4G coverage is spotty (for example, there is no 4G Sprint network in Arizona). So I will be waiting, unless I need to replace my phone for some reason.

 

[Venture]

I went to Apple's site, clicked on "Watch the iPhone 4S Video," and was treated to a "You need Quicktime!" message. Nope, not bothering. The rest of the web knows to use Flash, so I'll stick with the rest of the web.

Hooray for Apple, still making things easy after all these years. :

(I guess you know where I stand as far as being an Apple fan)

 

[JHKolb]

I went to Apple's site, clicked on "Watch the iPhone 4S Video," and was treated to a "You need Quicktime!" message. Nope, not bothering. The rest of the web knows to use Flash, so I'll stick with the rest of the web.

Hooray for Apple, still making things easy after all these years. :

(I guess you know where I stand as far as being an Apple fan)

Exactly, Apple and their proprietary systems is just wrong these days. If they (Apple) come out with a NEW iPhone (not just an upgrade to the existing unit) that supported Flash, had a user replaceable battery, and sd memory card support I might think about going over to the dark side of Apple. But until then, stuck with my Droid2 Global ::010::

 

[digitalmoto]

Exactly, Apple and their proprietary systems is just wrong these days. If they (Apple) come out with a NEW iPhone (not just an upgrade to the existing unit) that supported Flash, had a user replaceable battery, and sd memory card support I might think about going over to the dark side of Apple. But until then, stuck with my Droid2 Global ::010::

Channeling Steve Jobs:

But all of those things destroy the hardware design! We'd have to use screws and have gaping holes in our otherwise smooth and sleek chassis. No. No. No! Speaking of which, we can't have users opening up their phones! If they need a new battery, we want them to come into the store and buy a new phone. Same for memory. Why ever would we stoop so low as to load Flash onto our already near perfect iPhones? That's something Microsoft would do (under court orders)! Adobe is fine, but we would never do anything to undermine our own media player... or the iTunes Store. We're #1 in market capitalization for a reason!

You might think I have a less than positive opinion of Apple and there dead leader. Petty tyrants and ideologues filled with blind devotion are not my thing. It all smacks of idolatry. Fanatics are always a problem regardless of the topic: religion, politics, cell phones, or user interface designs.

 

[GrahamD]

I went to Apple's site, clicked on "Watch the iPhone 4S Video," and was treated to a "You need Quicktime!" message. Nope, not bothering. The rest of the web knows to use Flash, so I'll stick with the rest of the web.

Hooray for Apple, still making things easy after all these years. :

(I guess you know where I stand as far as being an Apple fan)

Well I spent years on a Mac, and it was a great productivity tool. It;s just made it easy to get things done. Only problem I had of course was the PC, where you had to do it their way or piss off. The "open architecture" didn't hekp at all with MAc compatibility. It was PC or piss off.

So I bought a PC, once they showed that they could give you a whole days up time without a restart mid project.

I now have a non apple audio player, a non Apple computer.

I have trouble with the non Apple audio player because everything has to be iPod/Pad/Phone these days.

Exactly the same as it was when I used a Mac in the PC world.

I now use Linux for it's Openness, PC for the desktop.

If you want Open you will be talking Linux not M$ or Apple.

Any one of the 100 or so Linux variants will generally talk to each other. It's only two Os's that have problems with Linux. Linux operates with them generally well, despite the best attempts of said OS vendors to stop that.

Let's see how the Android Ecosystem goes without the reality distortion field around.

Cheers
Graham

 

[Venture]

A project at work that is in pilot is making use of the iPads. My boss reached in his drawer yesterday and pulled out an iPad2 3G and told me to, "get to know this platform."

I think I must be getting old and set in my ways. A few years back I'd of been jumping at the opportunity to play with a new gadget. The iPad hasn't left my bag yet, where I stashed it after leaving the boss's office.

I guess I'll be back to this topic to give my opinion in a bit.

 

[switchback]

I now use Linux for it's Openness, PC for the desktop.

If you want Open you will be talking Linux not M$ or Apple.

Any one of the 100 or so Linux variants will generally talk to each other. It's only two Os's that have problems with Linux. Linux operates with them generally well, despite the best attempts of said OS vendors to stop that.

Let's see how the Android Ecosystem goes without the reality distortion field around.

Cheers
Graham

I am with you Graham! Been playing with Linux Distros for exactly a year now. Still a relative noob and some things are still better supported in the PC/Mac world but I's say that 95% of what I do I do in Linux now. I have settled on Linus Mint 11 on the desktop and Mint 10 KDE on the laptop. Great experience on both accounts.

My brother and Father have Macbooks and they like them. I just don't want to learn another workflow, I find macs very different to the point of frustration. On the Quicktime note, I had to install VLC on My brother's Macbook because QT couldn't play any of my AVIs. Proprietary BS is right.

 

[digitalmoto]

"Open systems" don't really exist. It becomes a catch-22. There is always something in each one that limits it's appeal across the various computer user demographics.

If you buy something like an Apple computer, they have such rigid structure that you can't do anything outside of what they want you to do. Your app crashes? Reinstall it. If that doesn't work, reinstall the O/S. That was the proscribed trouble shooting process when I had to support them. Admittedly that was a long while ago but the more recent Macs that I have seen follow this same pattern. If you are non-technical Apples are great products.

Microsoft owns the corporate world. They work on commodity hardware, when means you have to prepare for everything and hope nothing goes wrong. They figured out inter-op at a corporate level was key to success. Excel and word with with Outlook which works with Exchange which works with Active Directory, on and on. Apple will never crack that market when they refuse to allow admins to configure a system across a 1000+ deployed machines.

Last but not least, Linux. They have a huge barrier for users. It's too damn difficult to get one running if you aren't a geek. I've built Beowulf clusters with Red Hat/Fedora and Debian. And it took me years to reach that level of skill.

Programming and computer science need a lot more growth before we will have truely user friendly systems. After all this entire field has only existed since the 40s. 60 years. Civil engineering and architecture have been around for over 4,000 years as a formal disipline. Just something to keep in mind.

 

[Venture]

Last but not least, Linux. They have a huge barrier for users. It's too damn difficult to get one running if you aren't a geek. I've built Beowulf clusters with Red Hat/Fedora and Debian. And it took me years to reach that level of skill.

Programming and computer science need a lot more growth before we will have truely user friendly systems. After all this entire field has only existed since the 40s. 60 years. Civil engineering and architecture have been around for over 4,000 years as a formal disipline. Just something to keep in mind.

Every few years I download a Linux distro and mess around. That's all it ever amounts to - messing around. I worked on Solaris pretty heavily for a number of a years so I know my way around Unix pretty well, and for server apps it's fine, but as a desktop replacement I just don't see it happening for the vast majority. There is just no real reason to go with it over a Windows 7 installation. Cost maybe, but really, the cost of a Windows license is pretty negligible when you break it down on a per year basis over the life of the license.

I really think at this point we've covered the average user's needs 100% with any of these platforms. It comes down to specialized usage that is really going to dictate what platform you need.

I still haven't turned on that iPad...maybe tonight.

 

[JHKolb]

I still haven't turned on that iPad...maybe tonight.

You are just afraid you might enjoy using it and go over to the dark side!!

 

[SisuTen]

I love the simplicity of leaving my Mac behind as I ride off into the sunset, while you figure out how to make your PC work.

Lennox, shmennox ::015::

 

[colorider]

Maybe not the place to ask, but since we are talking Apple here, does anyone know how to attach a photo to a post here on an iPad?

TIA

Rod

 

[JHKolb]

Apple to me seems like a nice electronic toy, fairly ID10T proof, easy for grandma or little billy to just jump on a MAC or iTool and play Angry Birds. Apple used to be the tool for anything graphic but no longer.

A PC is definitely for anyone wanting to mod their machine. A PC (or linux) machine is really the only choice for a hardware enthusiasts or gamer. Not too many techno-geeks out there building up a MAC OS machine, maybe a few more these days now that Apple finally went to an x86 based M/B and CPU but no where near the extend that there are people building personal PC's.

MAC = GS1200
PC = XT1200Z

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[rem]

Maybe not the place to ask, but since we are talking Apple here, does anyone know how to attach a photo to a post here on an iPad?

TIA

Rod

I have three Macs and an iPod but no experience with the Pad. Can you not download the iPad pics to your computer ?????

 

[Venture]

Maybe not the place to ask, but since we are talking Apple here, does anyone know how to attach a photo to a post here on an iPad?

TIA

Rod

Since I now possess a shiny new iPad, I decided to fire it up and see what you were referring to. Indeed, it seems the option to select a file to attach is not available (grayed out) on the iPad!

i took it upon myself to search the SMF support site to see what the story is, and apparently the Safari browser doesn't support the "file" input type that is required. You could try installing a different browser. Maybe they make Firefox for iPad?

So, sadly, another Apple "win."

EDIT: Out of curiosity I checked to see if the option was available on my Android phone and it is. Clicking on it brings up a box which let's me pick a file from my gallery, and a few other places. So this is definitely an Apple iOS thing.

 

[colorider]

Since I now possess a shiny new iPad, I decided to fire it up and see what you were referring to. Indeed, it seems the option to select a file to attach is not available (grayed out) on the iPad!

i took it upon myself to search the SMF support site to see what the story is, and apparently the Safari browser doesn't support the "file" input type that is required. You could try installing a different browser. Maybe they make Firefox for iPad?

So, sadly, another Apple "win."

EDIT: Out of curiosity I checked to see if the option was available on my Android phone and it is. Clicking on it brings up a box which let's me pick a file from my gallery, and a few other places. So this is definitely an Apple iOS thing.

Thanks for checking Chris! Actually, I'm growing more and more fond of the tablet - so much so I'm thinking about buying a second one for travel to replace my netbook. This time though I'm looking at the ASUS Transformer which uses the Android system, so I'm guessing the photo upload issue will be a non-issue on it.

I have also noticed that when using the iPad, I cannot attach a photo to an email UNLESS I first set up an account on their actual email app. Probably for the same reason I cannot add a photo to the forum as both applications are being ran on Safari.

Go figure.....