ABS switch off
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KENAROO
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I made one for myself.. found the ABS fuse and pulled it. Made spade connector crimped to an inline mini fuse wired to a switch and return wire with spade back to the other side of the ABS fuse port. make sense???
highway dirt bikes sells the water proof 10 amp switches
inline fuse and spades can be bought at any auto parts store.
I drilled a hole close to the left side instrument panel and installed the button there.
total cost of mod.. $15
when I don't want abs.. I hit the switch and the orange button goes on. when I put it back on I need to cycle the key..
word of warning.. I thought I wanted this mod.. but can tell you first hand.. ABS works in most situation except really tight technical trails.. I had it off on the Lolo motorway and took huge digger as I came in too fast around an off camber corner.. locked up the brakes and started sliding towards the side of the mountain.. let off brakes and still couldn't get the back to regain grip.. I had to low slide or go off the side of the mountain.
I only now turn off when it's technical 1st/2nd gear rough riding. anything over 20 mph it's back on ..
highway dirt bikes sells the water proof 10 amp switches
inline fuse and spades can be bought at any auto parts store.
I drilled a hole close to the left side instrument panel and installed the button there.
total cost of mod.. $15
when I don't want abs.. I hit the switch and the orange button goes on. when I put it back on I need to cycle the key..
word of warning.. I thought I wanted this mod.. but can tell you first hand.. ABS works in most situation except really tight technical trails.. I had it off on the Lolo motorway and took huge digger as I came in too fast around an off camber corner.. locked up the brakes and started sliding towards the side of the mountain.. let off brakes and still couldn't get the back to regain grip.. I had to low slide or go off the side of the mountain.
I only now turn off when it's technical 1st/2nd gear rough riding. anything over 20 mph it's back on ..
I consider that about as honest and forthright opinion of disabling ABS on THIS bike, as I have heard since it was released.
I might STILL get that button some day. But even less likely now. I know me.
I might STILL get that button some day. But even less likely now. I know me.
The web link for a switch is in the following thread from 2011:http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=733.msg11332#msg11332
On numerous other pages of the thread are people telling how they installed a switch and even posting photos of how.
The search function works extremely well in this forum and when using it (abs "off switch") three full pages of thread titles came up. If that history is any guide, this thread will now devolve into all the people telling the noobie about how much better the Tenere abs is than [usually BMW is cited] and why they don't need an of switch. Or to simply put the bike on the center stand and hold the front brake for 20 seconds.
On numerous other pages of the thread are people telling how they installed a switch and even posting photos of how.
The search function works extremely well in this forum and when using it (abs "off switch") three full pages of thread titles came up. If that history is any guide, this thread will now devolve into all the people telling the noobie about how much better the Tenere abs is than [usually BMW is cited] and why they don't need an of switch. Or to simply put the bike on the center stand and hold the front brake for 20 seconds.
EricV
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Everything said so far is true!
The OP location says Columbia... so maybe their riding needs differ from ours. Note that the switch kits sold are virtually identical to what Kenaroo posted, just more expensive. Use any switch that you like, don't waste the money on an expensive kit that does the same thing.
The OP location says Columbia... so maybe their riding needs differ from ours. Note that the switch kits sold are virtually identical to what Kenaroo posted, just more expensive. Use any switch that you like, don't waste the money on an expensive kit that does the same thing.
Andylaser
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Theres always that unexpected moment when everything goes pear shaped. ABS has saved my ass before.KENAROO said:
Puff998
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My switch looks similar to a kill switch ...pulled fuse and ran a circut through the switch with an inline fuse ...works great ..no problems so far .but you do have to key on-off to reset it when you turn it back on ..
toemoss
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I just re-soldered heavier gauge wire to a light switch I had that clamps right to the left side of the bars, I don't like riding with the ABS on when there are a lot of washboard, make sure you use a 30amp inline fuse 10 amps is not big enough for running the ABS motor.
EricV
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Which makes your DIY kit the same as every other ABS off switch kit sold for the Super Tenere. Everyone has to cycle the key to get the ABS back on after using the switch to turn it off. (and turning the switch on first)Puff998 said:
As to the video, it's the rider not the bike. No surprise that the more aggressive riders were on lighter bikes. ABS had nothing to do with what was going on in the segment you specified and I believe the Super Ten's ABS would have worked just fine there in the sand. I'd want TCS off for the uphill though.
shrekonwheels
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Good info on the swtich, although I find the ABS works fine for what I do.KENAROO said:I made one for myself.. found the ABS fuse and pulled it. Made spade connector crimped to an inline mini fuse wired to a switch and return wire with spade back to the other side of the ABS fuse port. make sense???
highway dirt bikes sells the water proof 10 amp switches
inline fuse and spades can be bought at any auto parts store.
I drilled a hole close to the left side instrument panel and installed the button there.
total cost of mod.. $15
when I don't want abs.. I hit the switch and the orange button goes on. when I put it back on I need to cycle the key..
word of warning.. I thought I wanted this mod.. but can tell you first hand.. ABS works in most situation except really tight technical trails.. I had it off on the Lolo motorway and took huge digger as I came in too fast around an off camber corner.. locked up the brakes and started sliding towards the side of the mountain.. let off brakes and still couldn't get the back to regain grip.. I had to low slide or go off the side of the mountain.
I only now turn off when it's technical 1st/2nd gear rough riding. anything over 20 mph it's back on ..
As to your accident, please consider taking some Riding classes.
78YZ said:
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Maybe I don't understand your question. The Tenere did go down the hill and the rider even stopped momentarily on the way down. I doubt he had the ABS off, because I have done similar. If it is possible for the tires to find enough traction to stop, the Tenere will do it. If there is not enough traction, they will get it as slow as the loose surface will go till it begins to slide.
With ABS on, the older GS just would not come to a stop. I've been on a pre-water-cooled GS in a similar situation to what I described with the Tenere, turned off the ABS and had more trouble, as I was feeling for the limits of traction of each wheel manually.
I understand that the newest BMW and KTM Bosch systems are at least as good as ours. Have not had a chance to ride either off-road yet.
sparkyduc
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How is a 10A switch controlling a 30A circuit without a relay?
78YZ said:
Sand has special properties which make my Tenere sleepy.
I have a switch, which I bought out of Germany. WAY, WAY, WAY overpaid for it. Honestly, I suspect I'll remove it while the bike is apart for other work. I just don't see the need for it. I understand there are edge cases when it's useful to have ABS off, but in all my riding on and offroad, I haven't encountered the need on the Tenere. On my KTM, yes, but then it's smaller and I can ride more technical stuff on that bike, so being able to do pivot turns by sliding the rear tire makes complete sense to me. But on a bike the size of the Tenere? It'd look cool, but has little real-world application, IMO.
Yes, if your skill is sufficient (or your give a f**k low enough), disabling the ABS would open up different riding techniques.
Touratech WAS working on bringing a switch to market over a year ago. Their lawyers took one look at it and said no - they never put it up for sale. Not sure any retailer in the US will take on the liability associated with an ABS kill switch after a manufacturer tunes the ABS for offroad use and doesn't install an ABS kill switch of their own.
BUT, if the OP, or any one else really wants one, they're stupid easy to assemble yourself as outlined in this thread.
Keep in mind, should YOU cause an accident - any accident - a clever lawyer *could* use your installed switch as a point of argument to illustrate your POV generally - meaning you're willing to take risks...sad but true...
Yes, if your skill is sufficient (or your give a f**k low enough), disabling the ABS would open up different riding techniques.
Touratech WAS working on bringing a switch to market over a year ago. Their lawyers took one look at it and said no - they never put it up for sale. Not sure any retailer in the US will take on the liability associated with an ABS kill switch after a manufacturer tunes the ABS for offroad use and doesn't install an ABS kill switch of their own.
BUT, if the OP, or any one else really wants one, they're stupid easy to assemble yourself as outlined in this thread.
Keep in mind, should YOU cause an accident - any accident - a clever lawyer *could* use your installed switch as a point of argument to illustrate your POV generally - meaning you're willing to take risks...sad but true...
78YZ said:
Hardly. The bike was on the OEM tires at that point. It didn't like sand much more with K60s and the current Anakee 3's are almost as bad as the stock TW.
scott123007
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Although he was only joking about your tires, which I "think" you picked up on, I can tell all of you first hand that it makes virtually no difference what kind of tires you have on a HEAVY Adventure bike in Sugar Sand. A DEEP RIBBED front and a PADDLE rear would make a difference, but good luck finding those for the S-10, and better luck riding them on the road. LOLCheckswrecks said:
Mark R.
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I have an ABS off switch, and I use it every time my bike hits dirt. I also turn off the TC. The ABS off switch allows the rear tire to be skidded / dragged both for turning and on loose downhills, so the front end stays pointed downhill. It is very important to me to be able to turn it off.sportsguy said:I have a switch, which I bought out of Germany. WAY, WAY, WAY overpaid for it. Honestly, I suspect I'll remove it while the bike is apart for other work. I just don't see the need for it. I understand there are edge cases when it's useful to have ABS off, but in all my riding on and offroad, I haven't encountered the need on the Tenere. On my KTM, yes, but then it's smaller and I can ride more technical stuff on that bike, so being able to do pivot turns by sliding the rear tire makes complete sense to me. But on a bike the size of the Tenere? It'd look cool, but has little real-world application, IMO.
Yes, if your skill is sufficient (or your give a f**k low enough), disabling the ABS would open up different riding techniques.
Touratech WAS working on bringing a switch to market over a year ago. Their lawyers took one look at it and said no - they never put it up for sale. Not sure any retailer in the US will take on the liability associated with an ABS kill switch after a manufacturer tunes the ABS for offroad use and doesn't install an ABS kill switch of their own.
BUT, if the OP, or any one else really wants one, they're stupid easy to assemble yourself as outlined in this thread.
Keep in mind, should YOU cause an accident - any accident - a clever lawyer *could* use your installed switch as a point of argument to illustrate your POV generally - meaning you're willing to take risks...sad but true...
TC is terrible on the dirt, as anyone who has tried to go up nasty washboard will attest. With TC on, as the rear wheel jumps, the TC keeps killing power, eventually stalling the bike on the hill.
It's not scary to have these things turned off when on the dirt, and when one does get used to them, and employs the riding techniques associated with having them off, the ST is simply much more controllable.
YMMV