A new topic, maybe, about rubber and wheels

[fender5803]

I am fairly new to posting new threads. I have about a year on Stromtrooper and a week on YamahaSuperTenere.
I am an expecting owner of a 2012 XT1200Z, mid November-ish either keeping or letting my Suzuki DL650K4 go to the next person (or dealer as a trade in maybe).

I keep thinking about this rubber issue ...

I am wondering what does it take and cost to have two sets of tires and wheels for my new S10-?? Can I buy the set-up to have a nice street oriented set-up as well as a nice knobbly set-up-?? Just saying, if money was no problem for some odd reason .... ha-!!
I don't mind doing the work to switch over (-and do the first mountings) but would want to limit it aka having two sets of ready to go, ABS, factory approved and all official like, wheels with tires - one knobby set and one street ... right. Is there any reason this is impracticable other than the money-??

I have no idea what brand of rubber my bike will come with other than one of two set-ups for my part of the world but, neither are for the dirt.

Also what are the choices for the Super Tenere in 80/20 dirt orientation. I did do a search but only here on this forum and know a year ago people didn't think there was much of a choice and I'm hoping that has changed by today, October 2011. How well do "knobby" or "dirt" tires" work on street surfaces today or rather are there brands that will do 50/50-?? Is it safer to use "off-road on the street" or "street for the dirt". I suppose one needs to pick one side of the road or the other ...

I'm thinking it really is a matter of how much am I going to be really ready to switch back and forth as well as how often I would need to.. money aside. It's not so big a deal to swap wheels as long as no tire irons are involved and the bike is happy with the two set-ups.

Anyway I am just thinking out "loud" and I did try to search for ideas. I hope well enough for this to be deserving of a new topic, whincing...
Thanks,
DT

 

[rem]

Also what are the choices for the Super Tenere in 80/20 dirt orientation.

for starters, go to www.aviciouscycle.ca Canadian site ... click on Motorcycles then Yamaha .. then Super Tenere ... somewhere in there are some tires specifically for the Tenere. If gives the brands and the on/off road use recommendation .. such as 75/25 or whatever. this will give you some idea as to what is out there. Hope this helps. Welcome aboard, by the way. I hope you get your bike soon. R

 

[fender5803]

Thanks Rem. Just what I was hoping for. Guess I should look first, but thanks in advance-!!

 

[fender5803]

for starters, go to www.aviciouscycle.ca Canadian site ... click on Motorcycles then Yamaha .. then Super Tenere ... somewhere in there are some tires specifically for the Tenere. If gives the brands and the on/off road use recommendation .. such as 75/25 or whatever. this will give you some idea as to what is out there. Hope this helps. Welcome aboard, by the way. I hope you get your bike soon. R

I found this site just in the last couple few hours .... http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/designcafe/en/index.aspx?view=article&id=447202 ....
I like the look of this bike from a 2010 write-up ... and the tires, nice-!! No prices mentioned and a lot of carbon fiber must be very pricey let alone a one of ...

 

[rem]

They have just recently changed their website, and I see they no longer seem to give the on/off ratio. But they are a very friendly bunch so just email them and ask. I think his name is Erik Russell. Also, once you have the brand and model of the tire, you can Google it and likely find the info that way.

With my limited experience, I have found that you don't need a high ratio of off road (<30%) for good quality gravel roads. I usually run about 70/30 or 80/20 and do just fine on solid packed gravel roads. I guess it depends on what kinds of roads you'll be riding on. And where you are. Our "paved" roads up here are rough, so we tend to use as high a highway % as we can to make the tire last longer. R

 

[fender5803]

I like the website already. Will look more soon. Since I dont have the XT1200z yet I'm trying hard not to get to excited. I have my fingers crossed I don't get left out in the cold by a dealer making promises that ..... awww, I don't even want to think about it. My glass is half full, that's to say I'm thinkin positive. It's arriving mid November.

I ride mostly streets and when I get of pavement It will be fire roads and hard pack. I need to go slowly as I don't have much off road experience at all. I never took my DL650 off road except once. It had street rubber. Anakee 2 up front and a Metzler on the back that worked fine for Los Angeles streets and freeways and more streets and freeways ....
I think I read they were said to be 80/20 at least the Metzler. Maybe it's a Tourance?? It was on the bike almost new when I bought it used. I put the Anakee on up front and only remember the reviews where for street as I figured I wasn't taking it off road.

It makes sense what you said. I well remember the potholes and frost heaves when I rode in New England areas.
Thanks again,
DT

 

[Checkswrecks]

Since writing the article about the wrecked Irish bike, I've wondered what a wheel set would cost in the US, so took this as an excuse to price it up with an online fiche. Lemme warn you to set your coffee down!

OUCH!!!!

With NO labor to assemble...

A built up front wheel is about $777 and the rim alone is $350. Add in a spoke set for just under $90.
That is with NO tire.

The rear hub is $212, spokes are $66, and rim (smaller diameter) is $284. seeing it was more than I want to spend and the results will be near those of the front is where I left off.

As for having a never ending tire thread, I'll let others pitch in.

 

[markjenn]

Based on my experience with other bikes, I'd venture you could probably build up a set of extra rims with all the trimmings using stock parts for about $1800 + tires. You could save if you're willing to bolt discs from one wheel set to another. I doubt you've have any aftermarket options given the hubs and spoking arrangement are unique to the S10. The front wheel might be amenable to an aftermarket hub solution, but the rear is going to require the stock hub.

Once the wrecking yards start filling with S10's, you could probably get the cost under a grand if you shop around.

- Mark

 

[JonnyCinco]

the ONLY place to order OEM parts without getting taken for a fool. I have order (sadly) many parts for my R6 from them. Great people to deal with and BEST OEM prices around.

www.mrcycles.com

Here is the front wheel:

http://www.mrcycles.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=1722183&category=Motorcycles&make=YAMAHA&year=2012&fveh=50981

 

[fender5803]

the ONLY place to order OEM parts without getting taken for a fool. I have order (sadly) many parts for my R6 from them. Great people to deal with and BEST OEM prices around.

www.mrcycles.com

Here is the front wheel:

http://www.mrcycles.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=1722183&category=Motorcycles&make=YAMAHA&year=2012&fveh=50981

Thanks for the info on this company. I have not looked them up yet but will write down the address for the future.
I liked the diagram they had of the wheel etc. I'm thinking it's to much money to have two full setups at this point.
DT