A More Affordable Flash Option?

SkunkWorks

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WOW!! That is one clean bike!! I sure do miss the days of tuning my bikes with jetting. It was so much simpler. I'm down to one carbed bike.
It has its flaws...................she has around 150,000-ish miles on her now, and I don't ride her as much as I used to now that I have the S10.
She still keeps up with modern bikes though, and is a joy to tour on.
That picture above was taken the summer of 2017.
 

Sierra1

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. . . .She still keeps up with modern bikes though, and is a joy to tour on. . . .
That's why it took so long for me to replace her. She was originally designed as a "super sport", but was too big/heavy for the track. So Yamaha decided to market her as a sport tour. And, as you well know, in the real world. . . . she's hard to beat. I was, and I wasn't, surprised to find out that the FJ motor is the spec'd motor for legend cars.
 

kmasa58

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I am thinking about starting to offer flashing for Teneres. As some of you may know, I worked with Flash Tune to unlock the mystery of the Tenere ECU. I've been working for ~6 months on/off making a "flash" that I am pretty happy with and I wanted to make sure the process was reliable and risk free. I have now flashed my personal ECU over 2 dozen times with no issues.

I have flashed a few others and the reviews are quite positive, here is one from OKLRIDER:

"Skimming this thread, I came across an offer from ac (avc8130) in one of his posts that he'd be willing to flash others' ECMs as an experiment. He'd already developed what he thought was a pretty solid flash, and simply wanted opinions. After some emails back and forth, I took him up on it. ::008::

We talked back and forth about riding style, likes, dislikes, etc. A couple of shipping labels, a cardboard box, and a ride to the UPS Store later...it was off. I anxiously awaited the return of my black box, riding the wife's KLX250 in the interim. About a week or so later, it was back! Like a kid at Christmas I was into the package, and out to the garage. Reassembly, check. Ignition on, check. Starter, and it still runs...woohoo! :D My initial impressions after coming back on it from the KLX were words that would probably get me banned. ::26::

He ended up putting three different maps in; one for standard 'T', one for standard 'S', and one in experimental that we'll call '2S'. Right out of the box the difference was noticeable in both 'T' and 'S', but I quickly fell in love with '2S'. This extra map is accessed with the CJM. Had I known then what I know now, it'd probably be my 'S' map. ::024::

I've been running around with his flash for about 800mi now. 600 of that was on a road trip, the other 200 from commuting. I wanted to get a more solid and honest feel for it before posting an impulse "OMG! This is the best thing ever!" response. My main goal was throttle response, and boy did I get it with '2S'! It's like an on/off switch now. Daddy like! You can ride it like a hooligan. Guilty. Or you can cruise at 80 in high gear, and accelerate further with ease. It's hard to describe without being too dramatic. You really have to ride one to feel the difference. It's really amazing the difference a few 1s and 0s can make.

This is a small, one Tenere town, so I've got nothing to compare it to but memory....but wow...big difference over stock. Ac was/is a standup guy. Knows his stuff, and was cool enough to share knowledge to help promote this small market that we all ride in. Well worth the effort. ::008:: ::26:: ::001::"

I'm thinking of offering my flash service for $100 plus round trip shipping. I don't want to infringe on Chris' service at Flash Tune, and that is what he charges.

I can customize the flash quite a bit, offering different throttle maps (Both T and S modes) as well as different engine braking or timing. Fan temps are adjustable, and we can even setup a quick shifter!

For those with PCV's, I can attempt to write your fuel maps straight to the ECU.

Anyone interested?

ac

EDIT:

Pay attention to this thread! This is a fluid situation. The flash itself is evolving. The shipping/pricing/policies are evolving. I realize there are quite a few pages and many posts, if there is any question/confusion feel free to PM me.
AC,
I have a 2018 S10ES which I've enjoyed for the last 2 years, my only gripe is the on/off throttle 'snatchiness'... well, maybe bit of lack in hp as well. I'm interested in doing the 'relash' to eliminate/reduce on/off throttle snatchiness. Also, IF the engine cooling range can be adjusted & IF there's a 'hidden' +20 hp to be gained, I'd also be very interested. My bike is completely stock, except for a Delkvic 14" Slip-On I just added & I'm also thinking of swapping air filter with the K&N filter. If you still privde reflash service, please let me know how to proceed. I can be reached at: kmasa58@frontier.com
 

Ride

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I’ve read that your wrist can start to “get it” with some practice on the factory setup. I reached out to Anthony anyway because I HATE throttle chop and when he assured me the tune would not only soften that but awaken the motor, I was sold.

I’m sure many of you are familiar with Ryan Fortnine’s assertion that mama Yama stashed away another 20hp in the motor and only made unavailable to meet emissions regs. So Anthony’s assurance seemed right on.

Know that whatever your preference or setup he seems very familiar with the model and how to tweak it. I asked him about exhausts and such and he said the tune usually handles everything most riders seek via other means. In other words the weak link in performance is more programming than hardware.

For the asking price it’s a lot less than a stage 1 sort of upgrade. I can personally attest that a K&N is probably not great on an ORV as I’ve used them for years on street vehicles with quite a lot of silt making it past the filter as found along the intake runner/post well oiled filter.

I’ll have my ECU back from him after the weekend and will post up some feedback once I get some saddle time.

Just two more days until daylight savings... stoked for the riding season
 

ballisticexchris

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I’ve read that your wrist can start to “get it” with some practice on the factory setup.
It did not take me any practice at all to get used to mine. Jumping from bike to bike is a non issue for me. From a 2T to 4T, thumper to multi cylinder etc. IMO Yamaha did it right with this bike. What I like best about the sport mode is it's an alarm system that lets me know I'm fatigued when pounding out the miles and hours in the twisty canyons.

I must have got one of the good Super Tenere's from the factory. The fueling in both touring and sport mode is perfect. And I absolutely love the engine braking in spot mode. It makes for a much more enjoyable experience in the canyons.

I might suggest to balance the throttle bodies first before considering a flash tune. I turned the right side "static" throttle body fuel screw 3/4 out and tuned from there. It made a substantial difference in idle and off idle throttle response.


Yama stashed away another 20hp in the motor
I figure it's plenty of juice with over 90hp at the rear wheel and the ability to go faster than the tires rated MPH.
 

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I finally got the bike out for a ride today with the Anthony tuned ECU. Rode two up. It was far less touchy on and off throttle. Felt like warp speed in sport mode.

I’m extremely pleased with the results.

I have yet to check the sync of the throttle bodies.
 
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