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Checkswrecks said:
It's a problem for general aviation and really small gas tanks, like scooters, but we don't need to worry with our cars or motorcycles. The EPA requires pumps to have a built in vapor recovery system and those are designed to also draw the fuel back down to the tank. I've heard the calibration guys talk about leaving from a cup to a half gallon in the hose.
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vapor recovery systems (stage 2) recover vapors and any condensed or slurped product to go back to the tank...this system does NOT drain the hose or product piping....modern single hose MPDs (multiple product dispensers) have a blender mechanism that blends low grade and high grade fuels to get the desired mid grade. this saves cost and requires a station to only have 2 tanks...and makes fuel deliveries easier. so basically the hose and a little bit of piping in the dispenser itself will be the amount of low grade is dispensed when you select high grade (assuming previous customer selected low grade). so figure hose length = L, 1" hose contains === 3.14 x( (1/12)^2)/4 x 7.48 x L gallons

but hey, it's not like I work in the business for the last 25 years ;)
 

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freeflow said:
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vapor recovery systems (stage 2) recover vapors and any condensed or slurped product to go back to the tank...this system does NOT drain the hose or product piping....modern single hose MPDs (multiple product dispensers) have a blender mechanism that blends low grade and high grade fuels to get the desired mid grade. this saves cost and requires a station to only have 2 tanks...and makes fuel deliveries easier. so basically the hose and a little bit of piping in the dispenser itself will be the amount of low grade is dispensed when you select high grade (assuming previous customer selected low grade). so figure hose length = L, 1" hose contains === 3.14 x (1/12)^2/4 x 7.48 x L gallons

but hey, it's not like I work in the business for the last 25 years ;)
Hey - great first post and information!!! Glad to see you come out of lurk mode!!!! ;)
 

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ColoRider said:
While I certainly agree that ethanol increase the octane rating, it typically reduces the mileage compared to non-ethanol enhanced gasoline.

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CORRECT...ethanol has about 85,000 btu/gal...gasoline has about 125,000 btu/gal....you are getting less BTUs with ethanol. so a weighted average = (0.1 x 85,000 + 0.9 x 125,000)/125,000 = 121,000 btu/gal ===96.8 % of actual gasoline...a 3.2% LOSS in available energy
 
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