2014 Bar Risers

[Travex]

Just curious if anyone's installed bar risers on a 2014 and if so, how were the cable and line lengths? In particular, was there good play in them from stop to stop?

I'm considering either risers (which worked perfectly on a 2012), and/or Flexx bars.

Thanks!

 

[Scoobynut]

Travex, I'm not sure anyone has produced anything for the unique angled bar clamps of the '14 yet. Have you seen anything aftermarket yet?

 

[howier]

I would like to see someone make different size risers. With the new upper clamp and the riser not being cast into it, and a separate piece for the riser I think it would be easy.

 

[Travex]

Hey Scoobynut. Same here, this is the closest I've found so far from ROX:

AltRider sells ROX risers and has a nifty video on installation with existing lines that I found interesting.


howier: I'd like to see anything at this point.

 

[Travex]

I placed an inquiry with the folks who manufacture Flexx bars and have so far received two excellent replies expressing their interest in making certain I end up with the correct set of bars and/or risers. Their last stating that they're contacting ROX to confirm which risers are compatible with the new Yamaha clamps in order to recommend bars which are best suited to my size and riding preferences.

At this point they're leaning toward a 19° bar, which in their experience has been very effective in taking the strain off shoulder blades.

 

[Scoobynut]

Good work, Travex. I'll be following your inquiries with interest.

 

[Travex]

I'll just wait for bluetooth clutch and brakes.

 

[Travex]

I was weighing adding risers and Flexx bars and had decided to move forward incrementally with only the risers to start. At ROX's suggestion I went with their 1R-P2PP 2" pivoting riser which I also installed on my 2012 to great effect. No difference here. Night and day with respect to reach and comfort. Not only was the improvement immediately evident, but also after several hundred miles I know I've left that nagging ache between the shoulder blades behind.

What was different from the 2012 install is the absence of extended brake and clutch lines. After a bit of deliberation I decided to give AltRiders' method with video instruction (http://www.altrider.com/rox-pivoting-handlebar-riser-anodized-2-rise-x-1-1-8-handlebar-clamp-x-1-1-8-handlebar/pid/611/cid/7) a shot and it works perfectly. Just a few minutes of line repositioning and clamping did the trick.

Not only is it considerably more comfortable, but I also gained that necessary increase in height for peg standing.

Two observations of note:

1. With the added height comes added leverage and it's not difficult at all to push or pull on the bars to fully realize the amount of elasticity in the new (2014) vibration reducing stem mounts. At a stop you can literally and easily see the deflection range. No problem, just an observation.

2. The added height has incidentally improved the amount of vibration reduction. Not that I perceived a problem with any vibration heretofore, just that there's nearly none to be felt.

 

[Postup]

Could you please post some photos of the set up, I would like to do the same thing to my bike.

Thanks

 

[munsterlander]

Actually, I think they should manufacture handlebars so our hands are virtually next to each other and at desktop height, then we would feel good in the natural position to which we have evolved. And perhaps we could use the QWERTY keyboard to control the bike, or a joystick to "aim" with.
In the meantime, I'd like to see those photos too, as I am thinking of adding risers.... not so much for height, but back for shorter reach.

 

[mingo]

I installed 2" Rox risers on my '14 and all's well. Cables and hoses are fine, no need for longer ones.

 

[Mellow]

I installed 2" Rox risers on my '14 and all's well. Cables and hoses are fine, no need for longer ones.

Pictures????

 

[Travex]

I installed 2" Rox risers on my '14 and all's well. Cables and hoses are fine, no need for longer ones.

mingo: I'm putting these pics up as I got tired of waiting for yours.

Note the disparity in screw lengths on the risers. Those were furnished with them. Not thrilled by that. Also not impressed by the Rox lateral stock not being long enough to extend through the entire possible grasp of the OEM stems, but they were the only game in town.

Installation was simple of course, and I'd again recommend using the line relocation suggestions from AltRider as ample play w/o abrasion can be found.

I enjoyed 1500 miles in the Adirondacks and mountains of Vermont and not once had anything suggestive of back or shoulder blade ache. Same as with the 2012 and it's risers. I'm an average framed man and can't conceive of this bike being a certifiable long distance mule until these things are installed.

With the risers on and positioned over a good ride I now feel dialed in for everything I've planned for the season. If you think you need them you probably do. If you don't, you'll still end up with variable geometry for your bars. You just don't lose on this one.

 

[munsterlander]

Travex,
Your post was helpful and I spent the evening installing the same risers. You said,
What was different from the 2012 install is the absence of extended brake and clutch lines. After a bit of deliberation I decided to give AltRiders' method with video instruction (http://www.altrider.com/rox-pivoting-handlebar-riser-anodized-2-rise-x-1-1-8-handlebar-clamp-x-1-1-8-handlebar/pid/611/cid/7) a shot and it works perfectly. Just a few minutes of line repositioning and clamping did the trick.
But you neglected to mention that it is pretty tough, at least for my big paws, to reach and remove and replace the brake line and clutch line retainer bolts per the Altrider video.... especially when you drop one down a black hole on to the top of the engine somewhere. Spent a couple hours looking, removing pieces to get access, (learned where the radiator and air filter are, said hello the fuel tank, etc) and never did find that stupid little bolt. I can only hope it falls out innocently, or just lays somewhere doing nothing until I find it someday.... makes me nervous. Darn bike is too heavy to hold it upside down and shake it.
But I have a long ride in the morning and will see what kind of difference the risers make.

 

[jimsgone]

Also not impressed by the Rox lateral stock not being long enough to extend through the entire possible grasp of the OEM stems, but they were the only game in town.

thanks for posting pics Travex! ::012::

so did the stock come up short on the "12 also? i won't like to think maybe Rox will lengthen the rod, and maybe include the right size screws!! :question:

 

[Travex]

munsterlander: Glad it worked out for you too. AltRider's advice for using both a wrench and a socket are about the only things you can do to ease the awkward bolt insertions in addition to turning the the bars to the stops for each side. I wouldn't worry too much about the dropped bolt. I failed to mention that I place a light colored towel directly under work areas for just such occasions.

jimsgone: Glad to have helped, thanks. The 12's stems are perfectly parallel and don't make the risers beg for more grip and the length is visibly ideal.

Although AltRider's instructions are specific to the '12, they also worked just fine for a '14.

 

[klenoth]

$50 for shipping. O my god :-(

 

[Thunderwear]

Note the disparity in screw lengths on the risers. Those were furnished with them. Not thrilled by that. Also not impressed by the Rox lateral stock not being long enough to extend through the entire possible grasp of the OEM stems, but they were the only game in town.

Hey AltRider,

Travex has a great point here. The screw length thing would bother me too, but the lateral stock not being long enough to get a full grip from the handlebar mount is unsettling. My question is, why are the two bottom pieces separate? Why not just make the lateral stock part go all the way across and increase the strength overall? Seems to me a great progression. Maybe I'm missing something and there is a reason you guys did not do this?

 

[ironranger]

Just thought I would jump in on this: First the riser that is being used in the photos is our 2" 1-1/8 riser that is a universal riser intended for a wide variety of platforms. It is not specific to the 2014 Super T. Yamaha's choice to re-arrange the clamping geometry's is a curious one for sure.

The A-R assembly procedure referenced in this thread was developed by me for the 2012 T as I had one of the earlier 2012 bikes as a personal bike and wanted better stand-up ergo's for off-road. I think there is a picture of that bike on the super T forum somewhere. I respect people who's opinion is to leave a bike as the OEM designed it and I would never recommend making modifications that you are not comfortable doing, are unsafe or steal your confidence. Bikes come in one size fits all whether you are 5'5" or 6'5". A riser simply fits the bike more comfortably to the rider if that's the riders choice.

I would like to state that we are a high quality USA made company. We pride our selves in our customer service, workmanship and top shelf materials. I would also agree and state that I to am disappointed with your hardware situation as it should not have gotten off the assembly line as you received it. If you would like to call us we can send out a new set of hardware no charge. Please call Rox direct @218-326-1794 and mention this thread.


Travex: can you give me the measurement from the end of the riser boss to the inside of the OEM clamp? How much more clamping area do we need?

God Bless and good riding,

Chris
Owner
Rox Speed FX Inc

 

[Thunderwear]

"Travex has a great point here. The screw length thing would bother me too, but the lateral stock not being long enough to get a full grip from the handlebar mount is unsettling. My question is, why are the two bottom pieces separate? Why not just make the lateral stock part go all the way across and increase the strength overall? Seems to me a great progression. Maybe I'm missing something and there is a reason you guys did not do this? "

Hey IronRanger,

I am ready to order a set of the Rox Riser's for my new 2014 ES, but am holding off due to the issue of the short stock. Does the version for the 2014 have more area that is clamped? Should I wait for you duys to create it? Thanks.