That's why i like Scotland.
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WJBertrand
Ventura Highway
That sounds ridiculous for a speed less than 75 MPH. Of course I'm not aware of the traffic/hazards situations on that road at the time, but It's got to be somewhat open if they use it as a raceway.
I almost never say that. Except for congested cities, residential neighborhoods and schools, speed limits, especially in rural / remote areas are mostly about revenue.
PhilPhilippines
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There are plenty of roads where things go unnoticed. I like Scotland too.
Many roads have lost their appeal because they get well-known and drivers/riders leaving no margin for error ultimately bringing a cavalcade of attention/enforcement to them after their luck runs out.
new 1300 gs on its way
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VIDEO! New big-bore BMW R1300 GS spotted in the wild!
The next generation BMW R 1300 GS has been spotted undergoing on-road testing, and it looks very much like it did in the earlier spyshots
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Given a choice between BMW, and H-D, I would have to go with the American. I don't trust either one, but, at least H-D has more dealers around here than the Bavarian Wonder Twin. It's a moot point though. . . . not getting rid of my Tenere.
Does absolutely nothing for my wood-meter.new 1300 gs on its way
VIDEO! New big-bore BMW R1300 GS spotted in the wild!
The next generation BMW R 1300 GS has been spotted undergoing on-road testing, and it looks very much like it did in the earlier spyshots
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PhilPhilippines
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I meant the initial introduction of the law, but yes, it is now a great revenue generator.
tallpaul
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Sounds like the story of the A1 and uk motorway speed limits. At one time the road sign of a solid white circle with a black diagonal bar through meant no speed limit. Many roads in the UK outside of built up areas had these and you could go as fast as your car or bike was able to. Aston Martin decided the A1 near their factory could be legally used as a speed testing route for their cars but doing 130mph around vehicles that at the time struggled to get to 65 was dangerous, so the government changed the signs' purpose and introduced the 70mph speed limit for dual carriageways and 60mph for single carriageways as national speed limits where that sign was in force. Now the nanny state has decided that even this is too fast on some fantastic stretches of old A class roads and are sticking blanket 50mph limits on them (Cat'n'fiddle, I'm looking at you...!). Revenue raisers or increasing safety is a matter of perspective but in these days of prosecuting everyone, if you get caught daring to have fun they do come down hard on you.
PhilPhilippines
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This triggered a distant memory of a conversation I had at MIRA in the '80s. Something about an E Type or AC Cobra(?), (edit: Le Mans was mentioned also if I recall correctly - but I may be getting two or more bits of info crossed?),150mph(?), measuring skid marks(?) and subsequent implementation of the national speed limit of 70mph. I thought it was the M1, but it is a very hazy memory and there was a huge amount of more important information being absorbed at the time.
When training, 100mph is often attained on A roads, but not as a target. The speed is in keeping with the prevailing conditions, with safety #1, front and centre. A 10% safety buffer is held in reserve at all stages of the the drive: observation; vehicle dynamics; power/torque peaks; slip trade-off limits; road and weather, etc. Loss of licence is not a factor - or shouldn't be - considering the sight lines at those speeds would enable any other road user's (pedestrian, rider, driver) presence to be acknowledged at an early enough stage to make provision within the drive.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with driving/riding at 200mph where safe. It is only driving/riding at 22mph when it is only safe to move along at 18mph that is the danger. As you rightly state, the "nanny state" has sucked a lot of the enjoyment out of a safe but spirited drive. It seems to be both an attempt to stop death on the roads, which cost approximately 1m to investigate per case and, lower the number of traffic officers required to police, plus bring in revenue (the last is probably the most important and grubby factor).
The UK has possibly the most congested yet safest roads in Europe and also the world - driving/riding is a joy compared to most countries. Whenever I get back there I love to find my own little A roads and immerse myself in the well-developed English road systems, amongst generally well-trained drivers. A huge difference between there and here in the Philippines - although here is the perfect training ground to witness dangerous scenarios on a minute-by-minute basis, rather than the occasional incidence on UK roads.
The result....
UK: 5/6 deaths per 100,000 vehicles
PH: 135 deaths per 100,000 vehicles
So the UK has something to applaud......unless they put a ban on being grateful too...
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next door neighbor having a extention done lol think the bricky may need to find a different job lol
tallpaul
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What is that? An outside toilet?!
Boris
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I think he needs a new spirit level.
I know a cash job when i see one.
WJBertrand
Ventura Highway
I recall riding across the south eastern corner of Oregon on 95. Nothing but barren desert there and no other vehicles on the road except maybe every 15 minutes or so. You can see the horizon in front of you and in your rearview mirror, wide shoulders, smooth pavement, no buildings or structurers to speak of, yet the speed limit was set to 55 MPH. In an environment like that, with little change of scenery it can sometimes feel like you're standing still at that speed. The limit was also heavily reinforced by aircraft, I was (out of sheer boredom) watching him fly back and forth up and down the highway. He was definitely looking at me (no one else around me). I figured out some of the marks on the pavement used for timing from the air. When he was not directly near me I started running my ST1300 up to 100-130 MPH while watching for the marks, then I'd slow way down before the next one and so on. Hey, it kept me from falling asleep at least! Finally I noticed the plane crossing low in front of me and then turning around. I stopped on the wide shoulder and stood behind my bike taking a drink of water from a bottle I had in my top box. He made another low pass behind me. I think he was trying to get a view of my license plate. This "game" went on until I reached the Nevada border. An amazing thing happened there! Suddenly, with no real change in scenery, pavement, traffic, wide shoulders, etc., it was suddenly safe to do 75 MPH! No aerial enforcement that I could see either. No way that Oregon speed limit on a remote highway had anything to do with safety.
One quick call to the building inspectors
West of San Antonio on I-10 the limit is a posted 80mph. Interstates, within city limits, is 70mph. Out of town, is mostly 75mph. And it will still take all day to get across Texas.
First time in the U.S. three of us 1992. Landed in Miami came out of the Airport about midnight after drinking the plane dry of beer. Picked up the hire car ( upgraded it ) onward to Kissimee. Took turns to drive. Stopped a couple of times. Hardly any traffic. Destination achieved. Breakfast, see quite a few people who were on the plane. Mostly saying wow that was a long drive from the Airport it took us ( can't remember how long ) . We were like, what way did you go ? ( we did it in a lot less ) Well it was the speed limit. The speed limit ? . Yeah it's 55mph. It's 55 mph ? . Yeah. Oh, we just started driving, and the roads are so big and there was no traffic so we just gassed it. Oh you just gassed it then. Yeah we just gassed it, are you saying you drove like 400 miles at 55 mph ? . Yeah it took us ages, so where are you from ?. We're from London. Oh I would love to visit London, what's it like ?.
It's fast.
It's fast.
Longdog Cymru
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You mean you’d pay cash for THAT?
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An 80-year-old man is having a drink at the King's Arms. A gorgeous girl enters and sits down a few seats away.
The girl is so attractive that he just can't take his eyes off her.
After a short while, the girl notices him staring, and approaches him.
Before the man has time to apologize, the girl looks him deep in the eyes and says in a sultry tone: "I'll do anything you'd like.
Anything you can imagine in your wildest dreams, it doesn't matter how extreme or unusual it is, I'm game. I want £100, and there's one other condition."
Completely stunned by the sudden turn of events, the man asks her what her condition is. "You have to tell me what you want me to do in just three words."
The man takes a moment to consider the offer from the beautiful woman.
He whips out his wallet and puts £100 into her hand.
He then looks her square in the eyes, and says:
"Paint my house."
Our needs change as we get older, and we tend to look for bargains.
The girl is so attractive that he just can't take his eyes off her.
After a short while, the girl notices him staring, and approaches him.
Before the man has time to apologize, the girl looks him deep in the eyes and says in a sultry tone: "I'll do anything you'd like.
Anything you can imagine in your wildest dreams, it doesn't matter how extreme or unusual it is, I'm game. I want £100, and there's one other condition."
Completely stunned by the sudden turn of events, the man asks her what her condition is. "You have to tell me what you want me to do in just three words."
The man takes a moment to consider the offer from the beautiful woman.
He whips out his wallet and puts £100 into her hand.
He then looks her square in the eyes, and says:
"Paint my house."
Our needs change as we get older, and we tend to look for bargains.