jbrown
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I think that's your suspension controller.
....crap. Welp, give me an extra week or so on that post-flash write up folks! (tucks tail between legs as he walks past the service manual in the garage). #rookiemoveHmmmm, that doesn’t look like an ECU, mine has two connector sockets. Where did you remove it from? If you took it from under the seat that’s the ES suspension computer.
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LOL. We've all done something similar. I put oil in my Bro's Singer Chamois (Hillman Imp) when I borrowed it. First time I had ever put oil in a car and I was watching for oil in the filler funnel not checking the dip stick.!....crap. Welp, give me an extra week or so on that post-flash write up folks! (tucks tail between legs as he walks past the service manual in the garage). #rookiemove
Oh man! That's topping it off indeed! This forum is awesome though! I really appreciate the teamwork in catching that error for me! Tbh, I was rushing a bit to make it to the post office before the holiday closures and apparently thought my Yamaha was a Kawasaki for a minute! Ha ha! Live and learn. At least you all saved me time in helping me get the REAL (lol) ECU in the mail!LOL. We've all done something similar. I put oil in my Bro's Singer Chamois (Hillman Imp) when I borrowed it. First time I had ever put oil in a car and I was watching for oil in the filler funnel not checking the dip stick.!
"Oh, you w*anker!", or similar, was the response I got when I explained I had "topped" it up as he had requested with a FIVE LITRE can of oil!!!
At least yours looks a bit like an ECU...
I'm happy it works well for you EnnK I do wish I could say the same. I think an important factor that divides riders on this mod is riding style. I ride pretty hard, brake hard and usually seek out the tightest and most technical twisty roads. Whether it be on a tour or weekend rides. The S10's balance and chassis never lets me down (ES settings maxed out for firmness) but the power delivery has.I have 2018 European bike and I have absolutely no abruptness problems with factory ECU. Everything is smooth and engine braking suits for me too. I had Fjr 1300 before and that bike was really jearky, pc5 did cure it somewhat but it was never as smooth ST is stock.
I have a 2017 European bike and mine is fine too.I have 2018 European bike and I have absolutely no abruptness problems with factory ECU. Everything is smooth and engine braking suits for me too. I had Fjr 1300 before and that bike was really jearky, pc5 did cure it somewhat but it was never as smooth ST is stock.
I heard the same thing when I was on a Gen I (flashed) and the Gen II came out. A few years later I got a Gen II and it only took one ride to know that the Gen II would also benefit from a flash to get rid of the bog around 2000 RPM, to get eliminate the power limits in the first 3 gears and to smooth out the power delivery and increase the power. It was a dog compared to my flashed Gen I, but a flash and Arrow headers made it a fantastic bike.Only in all threads I have been reading it seemed that only older model would benefit from the reflash so I wanted to know if was worth it on my bike or not.
Thanks for letting me know the difference.I heard the same thing when I was on a Gen I (flashed) and the Gen II came out. A few years later I got a Gen II and it only took one ride to know that the Gen II would also benefit from a flash to get rid of the bog around 2000 RPM, to get eliminate the power limits in the first 3 gears and to smooth out the power delivery and increase the power. It was a dog compared to my flashed Gen I, but a flash and Arrow headers made it a fantastic bike.
My Super Tenere is also an EU spec. The bog at 2000 rpm is due to emissions fueling. You won't know how good it can be till you do the flash, then you'll say "Now I get it." I can recommend a really good tuner in the UK, he sold me a flash he developed on the dyno for 200 quid, which was a bargain considering how good it made both S and T modes. Shoot me a PM if you want the info.Thanks for letting me know the difference.
To be honest the only thing I am not completely happy about is the top end for a lack of better words.
There is no jerkiness at all on my 2020 model...
Maybe in the future I will try a slip on ,maybe an Italian Arrow. You have to support your own country after all...
I personally think that is the key. The more you ride, the less it's an issue.. . . . Sport mode is snatchy compared to touring but you quickly learn to ride around it.
I can appreciate that approach (and yoyo's too) but I'm not sure that it can be standardized for all S10 riders. E.g., if we had specialized training checklists/routines coupled with mandatory "flying hours" and an evaluator; at some point, a formal call could made as to whether or not enough muscle memory has been developed/refined to a qualifying point.I personally think that is the key. The more you ride, the less it's an issue.
And, I am basing my opinion on 19 years as a motor cop. Starting with a KZ1000, followed by an RT, and then ST. None of which have much in common. But, with all of them, I learned their difference, and adapted without changing anything other than lever engagement. Low rpm control requires throttle control, and just as importantly clutch, and rear brake control. If you can't combine them correctly, that's not the bike's fault.I can appreciate that approach (and yoyo's too) but I'm not sure that it can be standardized for all S10 riders. . . . . I'll also add that I'm applying lessons learned from my gen III Versys 650. Six years of ownership and 35k+ miles couldn't make the low rpm throttle response safe enough for me as a rider. Personal preferences/limits apply for sure, but for me, I felt I gave it enough time and technique application; which included multiple track days, teaching many advanced riding clinics on it, temp. installing a G2 Ergonomics throttle tamer, etc. . . .
Great points! I definitely understand the concepts of good low rpm bike control . E.g., running the small bike exercises on my KLR650 is no problem and pretty fun! In a faster environment, I preferred riding a 1998 GSX-R600 over a 2005 ZX-6R. I attribute much of that preference to the oh so smooth carbs of the KLR and the GSX-R. The fueling is just lush!And, I am basing my opinion on 19 years as a motor cop. Starting with a KZ1000, followed by an RT, and then ST. None of which have much in common. But, with all of them, I learned their difference, and adapted without changing anything other than lever engagement. Low rpm control requires throttle control, and just as importantly clutch, and rear brake control. If you can't combine them correctly, that's not the bike's fault.
I have ridden in all weather conditions, road conditions, and have weeks/months of specialized training. In addition, my personal bike, an '86 FJ which I have had since it was brand new, was used in several MSF courses that are designed for 250cc bikes. I have always preferred my 'ol FJ to any of my work bikes. . . . until the Tenere. This thing dominates in cone courses, which are done at low rpms.
In the training, and at work, some guys just can't pick it up, no matter how much they try and think they can. A lot of guys can operate a motorcycle, but not all can ride a motorcycle. Just like when ask people if they're good drivers. . . . everybody thinks they are.
It has been said before on here, but there are many people who believe that among the mods/upgrades to post 2014 or Gen 2 bikes was the removal of restrictions in the first 3 gears. Also, my bike is a 2017 U.K. model and it certainly doesn’t bog or stumble around 2000 rpm and I think you will find most will agree with me on that.I heard the same thing when I was on a Gen I (flashed) and the Gen II came out. A few years later I got a Gen II and it only took one ride to know that the Gen II would also benefit from a flash to get rid of the bog around 2000 RPM, to get eliminate the power limits in the first 3 gears and to smooth out the power delivery and increase the power. It was a dog compared to my flashed Gen I, but a flash and Arrow headers made it a fantastic bike.
I've never ridden a gen 1 but would like to sometime in the future. It'd be great to have that Yamaha insider info though.It would be interesting to know if Yamaha use different ECU maps according to the country where the bike is to be sold. It well known that Gen 1 bikes benefit greatly from remapping but it seems that the general opinion is that U.K. and European Gen 2 bikes appear to perform quite well as stock.