Will you take the vaccine

I can’t understand it. An anti vaxer I know will happily gulp down any tablets his GP dishes out without question. He now takes 13 drugs a day but knows nothing at all about them and isn’t interested in finding out!


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MattR said:

I can’t understand it. An anti vaxer I know will happily gulp down any tablets his GP dishes out without question. He now takes 13 drugs a day but knows nothing at all about them and isn’t interested in finding out!


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Yep. I have a friend that is posting all sorts of nonsense. Edit: I just realised I posted for everybody hahahahaha

MattR said:

I can’t understand it. An anti vaxer I know will happily gulp down any tablets his GP dishes out without question. He now takes 13 drugs a day but knows nothing at all about them and isn’t interested in finding out!


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I have a friend that eats hotdogs and McDonalds Chicken McNuggets, but won't take the vaccine because he doesn't know what's in it.

Rumor and myth, with a little suspicion & superstition tossed in for effect. Most people are ignorant and lack any desire to learn more about many things that are important to their daily lives.

The MS Governor removed the state wide mask mandate last week. He can't possibly be that stupid, so my main thought is how is he benefiting from doing something that even a grade school child can see makes no sense? What should be done, is a major investigation of these governors to find out where the personal benefits are, then charges for corruption and mandatory life in prison sentencing for them for willful endangerment of tens of thousands of lives.

I see a majority of people here wearing masks and making an effort. But I do see more not wearing masks now than before the mask mandate was rescinded. The local WalMart changed their signs from "masks must be worn to enter" to the signs they had up in the beginning, "Masks are recommended" and all employees are still required to wear masks. That said, they never, ever enforced the mask mandate. I've never seen a non-masked person asked to mask up or leave, around here in MS. And the more rural you get, the less mask wearing I see, but it's not a universal thing either. I've been in po-dunk towns with 200 people and seen everyone masked up. OTOH, a stop and rob in the middle of no where and no one bothers to mask up to go inside, regardless of signs or if the staff is masked or behind screens.

To those that find a mask uncomfortable or "hate the mask", suck it up candy pants. Masks are like any other PPE. Some are more comfortable than others and there are many, many options. Find something that fits you better, is more comfortable for you, color matches your outfit or whatever you need to do to make it less unpleasant for YOU. Then wear the damn mask. For everyone's sake.

And just like helmets and other PPE, most people will find it uncomfortable until they get used to it. That's a normal human reaction to something new.

EricV said:

The local WalMart changed their signs from "masks must be worn to enter" to the signs they had up in the beginning, "Masks are recommended" and all employees are still required to wear masks. That said, they never, ever enforced the mask mandate. I've never seen a non-masked person asked to mask up or leave, around here in MS.

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It's one of the reasons I can't stand Walmart among many others. I had to go there for some emergency shopping about 6 months ago and was blown away at the low life's that refused to mask and the employees who were wearing theirs under the chin. I can count on just a few fingers how many times I have went into a Walmart in the last few years.

When I was in the Hospital a few weeks back the doctors and nurses told me the two worst places to enter are Cosco and Walmart at any hour and grocery stores at rush hour.

Mask up for the rest of your life. Hide in your home. Do whatever you need to do to feel safe. You can’t have a pandemic that lasts forever. Government can’t mandate mandate mask wearing when the case load and hospital occupancy doesn’t support the fear.

And the private property rule goes both ways. If you don’t want to wear a mask in an establishment that requires it-shop somewhere else, if you want people to be masked.
No one makes you shop at a store that is relaxing the mask mandate. Take your business elsewhere.

Mak10 said:

Mask up for the rest of your life. Hide in your home. Do whatever you need to do to feel safe. You can’t have a pandemic that lasts forever. Government can’t mandate mandate mask wearing when the case load and hospital occupancy doesn’t support the fear.

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All I have to do is drive up the block and see all the tents in parking lots at our local hospital for the people who are contracting COVID. It's not about fear it's about using common sense and protecting others.

Of course those that are dumb as a rock are going to refuse and continue to do as they please. I only have to drive a few miles to the next town to see those clowns.

Mak10 said:

Mask up for the rest of your life. Hide in your home. Do whatever you need to do to feel safe. You can’t have a pandemic that lasts forever. Government can’t mandate mandate mask wearing when the case load and hospital occupancy doesn’t support the fear.

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The reason the numbers are down is BECASE of mask wearing. Stopping mask wearing now will only result in numbers going back up. You're absolutely right, the pandemic won't last forever. Eventually enough people will die that the only ones left will mostly have immunity and the carriers will continue to spread the disease, killing off more, but that will be a relatively small amount compared to the population.

If someone had locked up the ONE HIV case in the '70s instead of allowing his personal freedom, we wouldn't have that epidemic now. The US did too little, too late to contain this, so we are here now.

Do you have any personal acquaintances that have died because of CV-19 complications? I do.

Right now, people you know are infected and spreading this disease to others. Many of those people show no symptoms and have no idea they are infected. It doesn't impact them personally, they are just carriers. And none of us know who has it or doesn't have it. You're ignoring the basic facts by choice. The first time you have someone close to you die from this, you will start to have a change in how you think about it all.

We’re going to have to disagree Eric. The reason the numbers are down is because a lot of people have had Covid and recovered, and we have a vaccine. Mask wearing is a placebo that makes people feel they can resume every day activity and be safe.

This all started with slow the spread. So we don’t overwhelm the health care system. Guess what? It has never been overwhelmed here. I know of many people that have “had” CV19. Not one has died.

Monday morning quarterbacking about AIDS and Corona does no good. It’s out there. And other viruses. Rabies is out there too, doesn’t mean I’m gonna hide forever.

Sorry for your loss of someone. I’m not living in fear. You do you. I’ll asses my risk and mask up or not.

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I’ll asses my risk .

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Great point!

Relatively few people you come into contact with each day have been vaccinated at this point. you're over reading things at bit. I'm not living in fear. I don't want my wife to catch this because she likely will die if she does before becoming fully vaccinated. So I've made changes to prevent that to the best of my ability.

Masks are about stopping what's coming out of the mouth, not what's going in. The 50-70 year old segment of the population is where over 90% of the deaths have been. I'm happy for you that SE Idaho has had little impact from all this, but I don't live in SE Idaho. It's easy to think this is blown out of proportion when it's not impacting you or the people you know.

FWIW, we had a case here in MS where in a restaurant, a group of four people sitting several tables away from another group all caught CV-19 from the one infected person in the other group. The A/C was blowing from one end of the room to the other and it was a narrow, long room. The carrier was close to the A/C and that was blowing it all down the room. 2 of the four were elderly and died from complications related to CV-19, all four got sick enough to be hospitalized, though two only briefly before going home to recover. The other two never left the hospital until they were in body bags.

The hospitals here were overwhelmed for a while. Lots of hospitals around the US were. I don't think you're saying that didn't happen. I think you're saying it didn't happen where you are. Don't ignore that other parts of the US and world have a different reality than you do.

You may judge your risk well. You may even consider your impact on others you come into contact with. But a lot of people don't do that too well. I hear some people complain that they don't want to be told what to do. They seem to be ignoring that they do that every single day as a member of society. They stop at stop signs, wear shoes to go into businesses, drive on the correct side of the road, mostly, and a host of other things that society asks of them. Many of which have consequences if they fail to do so. This is no different. If enough people refuse to do what they are asked and told, the consequences for not doing so will increase. That's how society works.

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Mask wearing is a placebo that makes people feel they can resume every day activity and be safe.

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Mask wearing is not a placebo. It is a responsibility of every mature adult in these United States

I guess we’ll see. It will be interesting to watch Texas.

Dr Ratbagg said:

Mask wearing is not a placebo. It is a responsibility of every mature adult in these United States

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The same could be said for condom use.

Mak10 said:

The same could be said for condom use.

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Ok, now keep following that thought. Because of the irresponsible people, millions of unwanted children exist in the world, often w/o dual parents or even parents at all in their lives. The entire planet is over populated. Just another disease working hard to kill us all.

I know kids in their 20's and 30's that have never had sex w/o a condom. That's their reality. It's not just about STDs. Sex = Disease, Death and Financial ruin to a segment of the population.

Your personal moment of happiness impacts more than you. Same for the masks. You don't want to wear a mask and be a responsible member of society. That's fine. Society is bigger than you and will crush you like a bug if it feels the need to. Taken to extreme, you see this happening in third world countries now. Hopefully it never gets to that point in the US during my lifetime, but it will get to that point here in the US eventually. Barring a huge die off event.

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I guess we’ll see. It will be interesting to watch Texas.

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Mask wearing has not reduced here. Removing the mandate just forced businesses to make their own mask requirements. I see just as many (if not more) wearing masks now. I truly believe some simply refused to wear a mask whenever they could as an act of protest. Now that the mask wearing has shifted to a personal decision, in some cases they now choose to wear one when they didn't before.

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I agree with Eric. With the low percentage of the population vaccinated, masks and social distancing are the reasons for the recent drop in cases. I really don't know why some people have such a big problem with wearing a mask. Just think about some of the other protective equipment we all use on a regular basis, seat belts, helmets, safety glasses, safety shoes, hearing protection, air bags, hard hats, hi visibility vests etc... Try telling your boss that you refuse to wear safety glasses and safety shoes in the machine shop because it infringes on your "personal freedom". Then try driving 50mph through some school zones. Our society has plenty of laws and rules for everyone's protection. Why not include face masks in public until this virus is under control?

You are extremely lucky in Idaho that you didn't have the hospitals overrun. We have all seen the pictures of refrigerated trailers used to store bodies and hospital beds in hallways. Around here one hospital turned a parking garage into a Covid ward.

I don't see how anyone can play the personal freedom card when other people's lives are at stake. I will mask up not only for my own safety but for the safety of others. It's the least we can do for each other. I will wear a mask and stay home home until this passes. I sure don't want to go through what my neighbor did. 7 weeks in the hospital on a ventilator, several times the doctors called her family and told them she might not make it through the night. She is home now, but still on oxygen and a visiting nurse checks on her every day. Hopefully most of the country will be vaccinated by early summer.

I've noticed at the shop that the anti-maskers have a lot in common with the loud pipes save lives gang.

The one thing that I never understood about wearing the mask, was that the doctors claimed that "you" wearing the mask was to protect everybody around you. I'm assuming that that would be true if "you" were infected. Got it, makes sense. But the doctors also said that the mask did little to prevent "you" from getting infected from someone else. Wait, what? Masks only work in one direction? If a mask can keep the virus in. . . . surely, it can also keep it out.

Still gonna wear a helmet when I ride. . . . seatbelt when I drive. . . . and, mask when I'm out in public. It's just not that big of a deal.

Sierra1 said:

The one thing that I never understood about wearing the mask, was that the doctors claimed that "you" wearing the mask was to protect everybody around you. I'm assuming that that would be true if "you" were infected. Got it, makes sense. But the doctors also said that the mask did little to prevent "you" from getting infected from someone else. Wait, what? Masks only work in one direction? If a mask can keep the virus in. . . . surely, it can also keep it out.

Still gonna wear a helmet when I ride. . . . seatbelt when I drive. . . . and, mask when I'm out in public. It's just not that big of a deal.

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I would think it depends on the quality and fit of the mask. The N95, KN95 and some of the medical masks probably offer the wearer some degree of protection. On the other hand a mask made out of an old tee shirt or some of these neck gaiter masks probably offer almost zero protection. There's a reason that doctors and nurses wear them.