Yamalube or not to Yamalube.

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I'm going to give my new to me S10 a going through and was wondering if there was any benefits using Yamalube as the dealers use,it has been run on Semi-Synthetic Yamalube and Yamalube final drive oil since new at the main dealers,now i own the bike i want to do all maintenance myself,should i carry on using Yamalube?
 

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It might make make your dealer happy, but there's nothing special about the Yamalube over other motorcycle specific oils as long as those oils meet the requirements in the owner's manual.
 

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I use the Dark Blue bottle Rotella T full Synthetic. It works very well and is reasonably priced. I have used it most of the 4 cycle bikes.
 

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I use mobile 1 full synthetic car oil ( non energy conserving) for about 10k miles now. I use yamalube gear oil because that is what was available when I did the break in service, I will probably switch when it runs out.

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I will take this one step farther. If you use Yamalube products Yamaha Warranty can't say there was a product failure due to a different lubricant. If cost is an issue you need to talk to your parts manager and get at least a 20% discount on what you purchase for your Tenere while you own it. Yamaha oil filters are way over priced and you can purchase those online.
 

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There is only one requirement; use an oil that meets the specifications provided in your owner's manual. The idea that a warranty claim will be denied because you did not use Yamalube is unsupported by the experience of many, many riders. People seem to want to perpetuate the idea that dealers look for the slightest excuse to deny claims. I'm sure it happens, but warranty work is a source of income for dealers so it is not in their interest to be unreasonable.
 

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Pterodactyl said:
There is only one requirement; use an oil that meets the specifications provided in your owner's manual. The idea that a warranty claim will be denied because you did not use Yamalube is unsupported by the experience of many, many riders. People seem to want to perpetuate the idea that dealers look for the slightest excuse to deny claims. I'm sure it happens, but warranty work is a source of income for dealers so it is not in their interest to be unreasonable.
Its not the dealer that have asked the questions. It is Yamaha Warranty. My largest warranty repair was a complete rebuild from a CCT failure. Yamaha tried everything and we had an answer for all.
 

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The Magneson Moss act makes it illegal for a manufacturer to require the use of their maintenance products unless they provide them free of charge. Yamaha cannot deny warranty work because you used Castrol, Mobil or some other brand of oil so long as it meets the owner's manual requirements, i.e. that it is JASO/MA1, MA2 or MB rated (depending what the manual calls for) and of the proper viscosity. The use of Mobil car oil, as described above, could allow them an out for a claim potentially. They would still have to show that the oil was the cause of the problem though.
 

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WJBertrand said:
The Magneson Moss act makes it illegal for a manufacturer to require the use of their maintenance products unless they provide them free of charge.
I still wonder how they get around "the law" when it comes to the rear drive oil. Last I checked, the stuff specified for the Tenere, FJR and V-Max did not have a cross to any other product.
 

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WJBertrand said:
The Magneson Moss act makes it illegal for a manufacturer to require the use of their maintenance products unless they provide them free of charge. Yamaha cannot deny warranty work because you used Castrol, Mobil or some other brand of oil so long as it meets the owner's manual requirements, i.e. that it is JASO/MA1, MA2 or MB rated (depending what the manual calls for) and of the proper viscosity. The use of Mobil car oil, as described above, could allow them an out for a claim potentially. They would still have to show that the oil was the cause of the problem though.
Finally someone addresses non-motorcycle oil vs motorcycle oil. That is one reason Yamaha asked. The others are because this guy was an ass. The other is because my engine had a ton of carbon build-up in the cylinder/head area. Since then I occasionally use Yamalube Ringfree. And in 8,000 miles the cylinder/head was clean.

My idea to stay with Yamalube lubricants is they work, I get a good price, Yamaha has nothing to question. Easy Peasy.
 

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As if Yamaha produces oil!!! Yamaha gets a suitable oil from an oil producer and brands it as its own (and probably loads some $$ onto the price for doing so). The warranty issues and totally unfounded. The owners manual does not specify Yamalub. It only specifies oil specifications. So whatever brand you use will not invalidate warranty as long as the oil meets the specifications.
 

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Juan said:
As if Yamaha produces oil!!! Yamaha gets a suitable oil from an oil producer and brands it as its own (and probably loads some $$ onto the price for doing so). The warranty issues and totally unfounded. The owners manual does not specify Yamalub. It only specifies oil specifications. So whatever brand you use will not invalidate warranty as long as the oil meets the specifications.
::026:: Nor does Walmart, Tesco, Halfords, Autozone, etc...................... Just be sure you use the recommended spec oil.
 

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I just picked up a gallon of Yamalube 10W-40 at my local dealer for $20.99, oil filter was $12.99 :( drain plug gasket $2.55 each ??? Got to find a better source for those!
I already have some whale jizz for the rear differential, left over from my FJR.
Still a lot cheaper than the $195 they want for the 600 mile service.
 

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BadNews said:
I just picked up a gallon of Yamalube 10W-40 at my local dealer for $20.99, oil filter was $12.99 :( drain plug gasket $2.55 each ??? Got to find a better source for those!
I already have some whale jizz for the rear differential, left over from my FJR.
Still a lot cheaper than the $195 they want for the 600 mile service.
::009:: Here the local Yam dealer wants 23 CHF (@ $24) per litre for yamalube, and $18 for the filter, I really feel bad for you guys.........
 

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Dogdaze said:
::009:: Here the local Yam dealer wants 23 CHF (@ $24) per litre for yamalube, and $18 for the filter, I really feel bad for you guys.........
Cost of living is the only downside to living in CH. But that is more than offset by the characteristics of the country: scenery, people, roads etc. :)
 
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