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I have the Zumo 665. I find the weather data to be surprisingly accurate. I've used it to ride between VA and NY, staying just a few minutes behind the rain the entire way. I was on wet roads, but managed to stay dry the entire trip. It is ideal for weather situational awareness. No more guessing.

The traffic comes in handy less frequently, but it has routed me around horrific backups by rerouting me over a nice mountain pass to avoid about an hour long backup along my route.

I've owned every model of Zumo, but the 665 is the only one that actually changed how I ride and improved the experience beyond just a moving map and route.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
I have the Zumo 665. I find the weather data to be surprisingly accurate. I've used it to ride between VA and NY, staying just a few minutes behind the rain the entire way. I was on wet roads, but managed to stay dry the entire trip. It is ideal for weather situational awareness. No more guessing.

The traffic comes in handy less frequently, but it has routed me around horrific backups by rerouting me over a nice mountain pass to avoid about an hour long backup along my route.

I've owned every model of Zumo, but the 665 is the only one that actually changed how I ride and improved the experience beyond just a moving map and route.
Dirt Dad you just removed your less enjoyable adventures by purchasing this fancy device. Now you don't share our feelings or feel sorry for us. I don't feel that I can talk to you anymore. :(
:)

Nice GPS and wish I could go big with a gps like the 665 but would cost me more with the lady that let's me ride on the front. :)
 

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Dirt Dad you just removed your less enjoyable adventures by purchasing this fancy device. Now you don't share our feelings or feel sorry for us. I don't feel that I can talk to you anymore. :(
:)
Nah...not really. There's still plenty of times that I just look at all that green color on my map and realize I'm going to be wet for a very, very long time.

You are right about me not feeling sorry for anyone on a bike. People that voluntarily elect to ride in the rain deserves respect, not sympathy. I feel sorry for none of them. Of course if you're wearing a half-helmet or no helmet and get caught in the rain, I feel a little humor about the situation. ::013::
 

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Checkswrecks - you had TWO warranty replacements on the Montana? I must have got lucky - my Montana and rugged mount has been on the bike every riding day for the past 14 months and 38,000 miles, hasn't missed a beat.

For me, reasons for going for the Montana rather than something cheaper;

- big, bright screen
- rugged
- lots of functionality
- plenty of built-in memory, plus mini-sd slot
- decent battery life, and will take AAA's if necessary (not that I use it off the bike much)

Most or all of cheaper Garmins rely on a mini-USB connector for power. This is liable to fail at some point - two of my mates on this trip (out of two with that style of Garmin) have had that problem on this trip. The Montana gets its power through the Rugged Mount, and I guess it mount could fail at some point - but if that happens it's just a matter of replacing the mount, not the whole GPS...

Trevor
 

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+1 on all of Trevors points. I too have the Montana with the Rugged Mount on the SuperTen and the WRR and have found it to be a bulletproof setup.

I don't know if it can be done with the Nuvi, but if you get the Montana and then buy the Garmin Topo CDROM for your area and pay the $30 for a yearly subscription to BirdsEye satellite images - you have a really amazing offroad mapping setup.

I have had the setup for a year and the level of detail given is ASTOUNDING. There are "roads" mapped out that hardly qualify as roads when you see them in real life.
 

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Chartplotter!

I have had Zumo, and have a Montana.

Nothing can beat the older Garmin chartplotter x7x series; 276 / 376 / 478.

Simply the best things going for adventure riding, especially if you plan routes on a computer and then want to transfer the routes with GUARANTEED NO CHANGES to your GPS.

At one point I had a 276 on the WR250 and a 478 on the Super Tenere. I bought the Montana because of its flexibility and eventually sold the 276.
The 478 is my "go to" GPS for motorcycling.

The Montana is a fantastic unit that I use for Bicycling (road and mountain), geocaching, in the car, on the motorcycles (on road riding), hiking, kayaking, city exploring. I have different profiles for each actitivity.

BUT

When I want to do serious off road riding and exploring the 478 goes on the bike.

Garmin no longer supports the x7x series so when my eventually dies (I am sure it will sooner or later) I will be left with the Montana. Though there is at least one guy that has cprung up that is repairing the chartplotters.
 

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dcstrom said:
Checkswrecks - you had TWO warranty replacements on the Montana? I must have got lucky - my Montana and rugged mount has been on the bike every riding day for the past 14 months and 38,000 miles, hasn't missed a beat.

For me, reasons for going for the Montana rather than something cheaper;

- big, bright screen
- rugged
- lots of functionality
- plenty of built-in memory, plus mini-sd slot
- decent battery life, and will take AAA's if necessary (not that I use it off the bike much)

Most or all of cheaper Garmins rely on a mini-USB connector for power. This is liable to fail at some point - two of my mates on this trip (out of two with that style of Garmin) have had that problem on this trip. The Montana gets its power through the Rugged Mount, and I guess it mount could fail at some point - but if that happens it's just a matter of replacing the mount, not the whole GPS...

Trevor
Yes, I am on my third and all have been carried in the same mount.

Somewhere in the photos of our Alaska trip last year is one of the Montana, face up on a restaurant table and covered in ice. And another photo in a glass of water, which was what we had to do at every gas stop. Garmin had a bunch of them that the screen no longer responded to touch when more than about 90F. The other problem was electronic and they warranted that one too.

This one has been going fine for most of a year now.

People considering a Montana may wait to see how the new Monterra works. It will fit the same mount and hopefully it will not have the teething issues.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-trail/handhelds/monterra-/prod113522.html
 

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Just ordered the strike genius BT. Has the Hema off road maps installed and has a good reputation in Australia.
I have been looking at these for a while now, let me know what you think about it when you have spent some time with it ::008::
 

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Regarding the GPS for use on standard roads, I don't see the need for a motorcycle-specific GPS model at $600. I think a basic one should suffice. I have just tried a Magellan RoadMate 5045LM refurbished (5"), $62 at Walmart. The good news is that the mount can be done without any specific bracket by just using the suction cup on the wind shield. Tested on 900 miles of rough roads, the suction cup stayed in place without any problem. The trick is to use some Windex/glassex or similar (window cleaning spray) on the suction cup.
I like the Magellan mount because the GPS cannot get out by shock or vibration (mounted on a rail).
The bad news are that the brightness was insufficient for reading the GPS with sunglasses in daylight. Also, the GPS died unexpectedly during a ride (auto reboot then death). I suspect that being refurbished should have warned me that this model would not qualify as a rock solid product. Got my $62 back, let's try something else.

I am going to try the Garmin 2555LM (5") which was sitting in my truck to see if a Garmin GPS would solve the brightness issue.
If you use a standard automotive GPS satisfactorily (or not), would you mind sharing your experience?

See the mount of the Garmin GPS using the suction cup (I didn't spent any time optimizing the cable routing).

UPDATE 12/15/13: Doug44 has provided the following details regarding his GPS that he is using for 2 years w/o problem (see his post on firs page):
"It is the XL 335 SE Refurb unit that I bought for $59 at discount, discontinued store Big Lots....... I liked it so well for the money I went back the next day and bought another one for a spare which I have never had to use in 4 years this thing has been great. Heck I have a nice Garmin that cost $180 and I like this Tom Tom better because it is more user friendly and much brighter so I can see it pretty good on the bike in the sunshine.

I bet this model of Tom Tom has been long gone. It is 4.3 inches I think. Some of them are now 5 in or more "
 

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I have been using the new TomTom Rider and have been very happy with it, screen is bright even in direct sunlight, seems to be pretty rugged and waterproof. Bluetooth paired very easily with my Sena SMH10 headset and my Nokia Lumia 920. Plus the TomTom comes with a pretty decent mounting system. It does take a bit of getting used to how TomTom does turn by turn versus Garmin, but you get through that pretty quickly.
 

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I have abused a Garmin Zumo 550 for years and tens of thousands of miles. It has never quit on me. And I will echo another inmante - easy to negotiate with gloves.

If you plan to hook up XM radio through it, you will need to hunt eBay for the XM antenna. RAM still has mounts for it on their website.
 

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NickBrewer3 said:
I have been using the new TomTom Rider and have been very happy with it, screen is bright even in direct sunlight, seems to be pretty rugged and waterproof. Bluetooth paired very easily with my Sena SMH10 headset and my Nokia Lumia 920. Plus the TomTom comes with a pretty decent mounting system. It does take a bit of getting used to how TomTom does turn by turn versus Garmin, but you get through that pretty quickly.
Nick, is this the TomTom unit you are referring to? It looks like a very full-featured unit for a reasonable price, compared to the new Garmins. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-EDITION-TOMTOM-RIDER-MOTORCYCLE-NAVIGATION-GPS-LARGER-SCREEN-/191122927295?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item2c7fd06ebf&_uhb=1

I am thinking of this to replace my troublesome Nuvi 550.

Thanks,

Bruce
 

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Which GPS depends on what kind of riding you're doing, basically, street maps or off-road tracks.

First for street riding which for me is often long-distance trips across the country to places I've never been to before.

Right now there are 20 Garmin NUVIs at Bestbuy.com that are all under $100. Many of those are 5" screens with free lifetime map updates. Yes, these are not waterproof but the large screens and current features of the Nuvi make them great street navigators. My favorite feature - finding good places to eat while out on the road. Search Youtube for a good video, How to waterproof a Garmin Nuvi. Basically, you just need a small bit of silicone on the edges of the screen. Factor in $40 for a RAM mount and for less than $150 you get a current model Nuvi, good mount, free maps and if it breaks you can buy a few more and still be ahead. In daily use, you can easily send destinations to the Nuvi from your laptop after using Google Maps. My favorite search, "pizza near moab, ut." <grin>

I like the 5" screens but be careful as there are two kinds. The low-resolution screen has larger text vs a higher resolution. With my eyes, the low-res screen at 5" means the text is nice and big and easy to read. Low-resolution costs less too.

The down side of using a Nuvi off-road is you can't enter tracks. You can enter waypoints and destinations but the Nuvi will automatically recalculate the route. That's not good when you want to be off-road and the Nuvi tries to send you back to the Interstate.

For off-road work, you want a GPS that deals with tracks and routes. It's also waterproof and it floats in case your Tenere does not. One of the best current models is the Garmin 78. There are different versions of the 78 ranging from $150 to $300. I'm on the water in boats a lot so I got the one that included a full set of charts for North American rivers, lakes and coastal regions for $300. The key feature of this kind of unit is the ability to load, save and share tracks. Yes the screens are small but when you're following a track you just need to know which way to turn next. The 78 lets you configure your screen to show different data fields in addition to a map and even a simple arrow pointer that shows you the actual direction to your next way point. You'll have to pay extra to buy city navigational maps to the 78 so I'd say skip that and just get a Nuvi for the city stuff. Plan on an additional RAM mount in your costs.

One of my favorite features of the Garmin 78 is auto track creation. Go for a nice ride and don't worry about keeping track of where you've been, the 78 will do that for you. You can download the track later and share it with your friends or upload it to the forum.

You can spend more money and get a fancy, waterproof GPS and that's fine, you'll just have to learn how to use one device then which is a plus. I ride with both a Nuvi and a 78 and enjoy the features each offers. When I'm on the highway, I configure my 78 to just show accurate speed, elevation and distance travelled.

Bottom line is these things are really cool and make life on the road or trail much easier.

;-) Paul
 

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Good points, Paul. Thanks for the feedback. I have not yet done any off-road touring, and had not considered the "tracks" factor. The ultimate answer may be to carry more than one GPS, depending on the mission.

-Bruce
 

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I forgot to mention one other cool option to stop the glare. It's called a Glare Stomper. It's a soft sun shield that attaches to the sides of your GPS cradle using velcro tape. They cost about $15 on eBay. Just search for Glare Stomper and find the right size for your GPS. These will make your GPS readable even in bright sun.

 

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squarebore said:
Just ordered the strike genius BT. Has the Hema off road maps installed and has a good reputation in Australia.
I've had the strike genius for a while now and am very happy. It has a few quirks regarding the software and trying to take you somewhere you didn't want to go but I sorted that out as well. The unit is very robust, waterproof and secure in its mount. I would buy again if needed. Cheers
 
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