To Tenere or Not to Tenere?

The_Baron

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Hello All,

I am in the market for a new ride, and I am considering the 2014-2015 Tenere. I realize the forum is probably a biased place to seek opinions, but I also think current owners can provide the best, most honest assessment of the bikes strengths and weaknesses. I’m hoping to receive “real world” impressions from current owners of ’14-’15 Teneres to supplement the journalistic reviews I’ve read on the Web, which, I think, tend to downplay bike negatives to avoid alienating manufacturers.

About me: I am 6’0”, weigh 160lbs and have been riding for the last 17 years. This will be my 3rd bike. I previously owned a CB750 for 10 years. When I got married, my wife, who had never ridden before, loved to ride but was afraid “to fall off the back”; so, I traded up to an 1100cc Shadow Sabre and added saddlebags, backrest, Mustang seats, etc. I’ve owned the Sabre for the last 7 years. My riding style: I typically leave early in the morning (0500-0600) and will ride for 6-10 hours at a stretch, returning home mid to late afternoon. I prefer cruising back country roads at a comfortable pace (50-55mph), but frequent, and sometimes lengthy, jaunts on Interstates (70-75mph) are necessary to explore new areas or reach those back country roads.

My bike requirements: reliability, low cost of ownership, touring range, and, especially, comfortable ergos for me and the wife. I’ve reached the point where I can no longer tolerate the Sabre’s shaky-quaky v-twin, especially after a 10 hour day in the saddle and when combined with the 100+ degree heat here in the South; too much vibration. The Sabre’s seating position looks comfortable and it is for a couple of hours, but the slight forward lean to reach the handlebars can leave me with stiff back muscles after a 10 hour day, so bike ergos are tops on my list. I need a mount I can ride comfortably for, say, 3 consecutive 10 hour days (long weekend) and possibly a cross-country trip. Where I live the roads are mostly flat, straight, open and cross each other at right angles, so, unfortunately, I won’t be doing any canyon carving. I also don’t intend to take it off-road; strictly on-road use only. I’m interested in the Tenere for its upright ergos, cruise control and adjustable, long-travel suspension. Besides a Tenere, I’m also looking at an FJR1300 for the same reasons, but I favor the Tenere because of the reduced weight and bulk.

My Questions:

1. What’s wind protection and vibration (footpegs/handlebars) like at Interstate speeds (75mph) in top gear in the stock configuration? Does lots of buzzy vibration intrude? Do you get blown around like a rag doll?
2. How effective are the low beams at night? The headlights look on the smallish side. Past 45mph, I am overdriving my Sabre’s low beam, even with an aftermarket HID bulb I installed. Does the Tenere have the same problem?
3. How comfortable is the stock seat for rider and passenger for a 5-10 hour day on decent roads?
4. If I add those brick-shaped Yamaha (or aftermarket) side cases, how does that affect bike aerodynamics at Interstate speeds? Do you have to feed constant, minute steering inputs to the bike to maintain a straight line?
5. If ridden conservatively for most of the day (no jackrabbit starts, cruise set btwn 50-55pmh) what’s the mpg like?
6. What’s low-speed parking lot maneuverability (with or without a passenger) like? I read the throttle, especially in ‘S’ mode, can be twitchy, which may make such maneuvers challenging.
7. Any other pertinent observations?

I'd appreciate any input and thanks to everyone for their contributions.
 

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::004:: to the forum Baron
I'm sure guys will help you out with your questions soon.
I have very little Tenere experience so I'll just read their answers also.

Steve
 

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Welcome, yes this forum will be biased but im the type of guy that used to switch bikes every 6 months. I've had my Tenere for 2.5 years and have no plans of changing it, its that good Especially if you go offroad, a bike this big should not be this capable in the twisties or in the dirt.

1. The wind profection is great ( i have the mra vario screen and yamaha winglets). Bars ars a lil vibey but i heard the 2014s are better.

2. The lights are pretty weak but its too easy to install an aftermarket light bar on an adventure bike.

3. The stock seat is not bad, the foam is plush but the shape is too flat and slants forward

4. Bags dont affect the stability or steering, i have the larger Jesse Odyssey bags and ride with and without them and feel no difference

5. I average around 47 mph with sporty driving

6. Throttle in S mode is a little snatchy but you're 6' tall you should have no problem putting a foot down. Im 5'-7" and i can manage

7. Pertinent info- there is nothing like the sound of a big parallel twin through an aftermarket exhaust. Braaap.
 

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1. I fitted the extra tall OEM screen and it works but I don't like looking through the screen I prefer to look over it and I can't get the fine amount of adjustment to get that sweet spot where wind goes right over the top of me. At around 130km/h i get some weird turbulence around the top to back of my helmet.

Considering the highest marked speed limits in most of oz is 110km/hr it shouldn't really be a problem. My solution is if I am doing a long high way stretch i put the screen up a little higher. but for the most part I seek out the twisty and where possible off road routes between A and B.

Vibration none to speak of, I removed the OEM pegs and fitted pivot pegs which don't have a rubber insert makes no difference.

2. The stock head light is fine on a straight road but as soon as you get to any fast corners you are staring into the black void and hoping the road continues as you predict. solutions A) slow down B) fit Aux. lights and ride faster. Just went all out with some Clearwater Ericas extremely satisfied they throw out an extremely strong bright beam in all directions letting you see through the turn

3. The stock seat influenced my buying decision, I have a smashed up pelvis with bones pointing where they shouldn't I find it comfortable to ride all day long. The Wife says the pillion seat is also comfortable. others on this forum complain about the seat so YMMV

4. The panniers and top box make no difference to handling, I often switch on the cruise control and ride with just figure tips resting on the grips with no input required to keep it going down the road in a straight line.

5. I never pay much attention to fuel consumption all I know is the bike has good range and I just fill up when I feel like stopping and i see a petrol station. you can expect ~400 km to a tank riding conservatively.

6. The Tenere handles superbly at low speed, doesn't need much room to turn 180 degrees, the throttle has 2 modes so if S is jerky for you use T. I ride off road over some technical surfaces at walking pace in S mode I finesse the throttle rather than treating it like a light switch YMMV. Pillion or no makes no difference.

7. OEM cases are "okay" the locks and release mechanisms are functional but crap, I was expecting similar quality to the Honda cases that came on my VFR. OEM engine bars aren't going to protect you side covers and if you dropped the bike side covers would hit the ground and probably protect the engine, go with something else I chose the Alt rider bars and skid plate.

the Bars have already saved my side covers after I stacked it in deep sand and I have heard some almighty smashes of rocks into the skid plate with no damage to the skid plate or bike so money well spent.

Forget paper comparisons to other bikes in the class the numbers don't mean much in the real world.

The Tenere makes enough power to lift the front wheel and spin the rear wheel, if you are looking for straight line speed by a sports bike

The front-on profile of the bike is much thinner than competing bikes with strange piston configurations making ti easier to squeeze through smaller gaps

On the road it comfortable cruises at 130km/h and will go much faster if you are so inclined.

I'm a new owner so I have only done the first 2 services I have found the bike easy to work on, the rear wheel is a shit to install if you don't know the tricks to it (the forum contains these tips relating to the cush drive)

I'm 6'1" I find the bars a touch low when standing on the pegs, but I'm not gonna bother raising them, adding the pivot pegs has made accessing the foot controls while standing easier.

Where I come from it's nice to stand out from the crowd, around here GS's are like arseholes, everyone has got one.

I moaned about the cases before but again unless they fail I won't bother replacing them as they are functional and weather tight.

price wise you can get the ES with most the bells and whistles of competitors and have money left over for all the bits and pieces you want to add. The ES also has very good suspension which has handled everything I have thrown at it.

The instrument panel on the 2014 acts like bloody mirror when the sun is at the right angle and behind you making it impossible to read and will blind you. other wise its a very nice big display giving you all the information you want and is easily navigated from the hand controls.

That's about all I can think to say about the bike. I like it its comfy lots of leg room. form and function are great.
 

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I love them so much I now have two. A badass dirt bike and and a street cruiser. I can't add anything to the two responses either.
 

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Welcome to the forum. I have a 2014 ES and love it for single and two up riding. dependability is top notch. The S10 is so versatile that you can ride at highway speeds all day, get to your destination and go right up the mountain in the afternoon without doing much of anything other than maybe adjusting the suspension. The ES model has taken a lot of those issues out of it. Coming from a number of different bikes over the years, with the right items to adjust to your height, weight and comfort. It is the best all around motorcycle that I have ever owned. I haven't found anything that with a windshield change and minor tweaks (no pun Chris) fits me like this bike. Some love it and some don't, just like every other bike made. If you get one, just make it yours and you will be as happy as you want to be on it. The 2014 engine changes that were made take a lot of the issues that people didn't like in the bike from 2011-2013.
 

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I have a 12 ST, and previously had an 08 and 04 FJR. The ergonomics for me are so superior on the ST that I did my SS1000 on it. While I do occasionally miss the effortless thrust of the FJR motor, the ST does so many things well, and can be taken so many more places, it has earned a permanent place in the garage. There are definitely tweaks to be made to personalize any bike, but the wealth of knowledge here on the forum will help with that!
 

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AVGeek said:
I have a 12 ST, and previously had an 08 and 04 FJR. The ergonomics for me are so superior on the ST that I did my SS1000 on it. While I do occasionally miss the effortless thrust of the FJR motor, the ST does so many things well, and can be taken so many more places, it has earned a permanent place in the garage. There are definitely tweaks to be made to personalize any bike, but the wealth of knowledge here on the forum will help with that!
::026:: I had my mind set on a new FJR and decided to get the ST. So happy with my purhase.
 

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Thanks to all for the responses so far. I am amazed at the number of topics and wealth of information on the forum. It seems like it would take days just to scratch the surface.

I had a few follow-up questions based on the observations other members have shared. The aftermarket lights, especially the PIA LP530 driving lights offered on Yamaha's site (or similar), anyone have first or secondhand knowledge about them? Are they able to throw a decent amount of light into the middle distance? I rarely ride at night, but do log some "Zero Dark Thirty" type mornings on occasion.

I prefer to do what user maintenance I can; i.e., change air/oil filter, engine/shaft oil, spark plugs, etc. It seems Yamaha designed the bike with user maintenance in mind, like placing the oil filter up front where it's easy to get at. Any difficulties in this regard besides the rear wheel iClint mentioned?

Has anybody worn out a set of tires yet? About how long do they last?

Are the side cases quick-detach like the setup on a BMW or are inner cases better for grab-n-go?

Ah, an FJ09. I looked at them, but the rear seat seems too small for the wife to be comfortable for the long haul, and after seven years with a shaft drive, I'm loathe to return to a chain. Most "sticky" chain lubes I tried partially liquefied, especially when operating in high ambient temps, spattering my sidewall and outer tread surface on the CB750, resulting in a squirrely rear-end and some unwelcome surprises during tight turns and aggressive cornering.

Sat on a Versys LT 1000 in the local bike shop and liked it. It's narrow profile and "lightness of being" impressed me, even with side cases; seat was comfy, too. If not for that chain...

I appreciate all the observations; good to hear from those folks who had/considered FJRs, too. The ST definitely sounds livable for the long haul, and I understand everything is a packaged deal. Whatever I've purchased, I always just dealt with/worked-around whatever foibles it had.
 

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ace50 said:
Oh, one little gripe I have about the Tenere.
All my other bikes were 5 speeds. On this bike, seems I'm shifting ALL the time. ::)
First time I'm reading of a sixth gear complaint. It's usually folks complaining of not having the sixth gear. Guess mfg's can't make 'em all happy.
 

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eemsreno said:
::004:: to the forum Baron
I'm sure guys will help you out with your questions soon.
I have very little Tenere experience so I'll just read their answers also.

Steve
Lmao at that. Steve has over 100,000 on his Tenere. He has done stuff 2 up that most sane people would not do.

And he has been known to ride a broken bike (no back brakes) one handed taking pictures when the guy in front of him said it was a bad hill.
 

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and another hello from the sunny old UK

as a relative newcomer all I can add is that take a test ride knowing that they get better with age, mines above 3000 now and its smoother and quieter and fuel use is better too,
the weight disappears when moving, the balance and layout give great drive and the linked brakes haul the whole plot up exceptionally, the only essential farkle for me was a bigger screen

cannot comment on the competition as once I rode the S10 that was it!
 

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BigBob said:
Lmao at that. Steve has over 100,000 on his Tenere. He has done stuff 2 up that most sane people would not do.

And he has been known to ride a broken bike (no back brakes) one handed taking pictures when the guy in front of him said it was a bad hill.
Bob
I thought you was in Colorado or something.
 

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Ron14S10 said:
First time I'm reading of a sixth gear complaint. It's usually folks complaining of not having the sixth gear. Guess mfg's can't make 'em all happy.
It's more of how the gears are spaced.
My ZRX was a 5 speed, but you could drop in a 6 speed tanny. Final gear was the same ratio, so you are shiftng more and end up in the same spot.
Feels like the Tenere is the same way with it's 6 gears.
 
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