Surprisingly unreliable.

sky4

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Never replaced a fork seal due to failure??? You, my friend, are one in a million. I can honestly say Ive never heard that before. Do you ever rebuild your forks? You never had forks resprung/revalved? On fluid changes I ALWAYS replace the seals. Its a wear item. Now that being said I have fixed many leaky seals with a piece of plastic from a 2 liter bottle-poor mans seal saver but that's another matter all together. I have, however, replaced many due to failure-especially stock ones.
i'm just finally replacing the left side fork bushings in my super T at 110k miles. did the right side cause it was leaking last year. it's gone through probably 4 sets of seals.

i'm coming to this bike from an airhead GS, and i'm consistently impressed with how well made every part of it is. i've owned some other japanese bikes for reference... KLR and an SV650 as far as "modern" stuff
 

mybackhurts

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I am surprised by my S10's reliability. I had Anthony reflash the ECU due to the horrible factory throttle response and added a slip on (@10,000 miles), some body protection and lights, otherwise stock, so nothing crazy. First problem was a blown fork seal while riding the MABDR, (@18,000 miles) ok, this could happen on any bike I get that, although it has not happened on any of the 50 plus bikes I've owned except for a 1972 DT250 around 1980, I'll look past this. Next the bike's throttle is wonky, most notably in 6th gear, when rolled on it begins to pull then the throttle application has no influence of acceleration to full stop, when returning throttle to closed it begins to pull again just before throttle is fully closed (@18,500 miles). Then the cruise control didn't work intermittently before failing 100% of the time (@19,500). The throttle problem and cruise are currently not repaired so who knows what is causing this, the lazy thing to blame it on would be the reflash except for the perfect 9,000 miles of running and fueling. I keep thinking of Yamaha's problems getting their MOTOGP bike to hook up out of corners and other issues they are having and can't help but wonder if the legendary Yamaha reliability and engineering has indeed become a legend?
Suprised by reliability but flashed the ecu... then says it's a copout to blame that. But, no wherewithal to diagnose and retune it yourself just complaints. Blown fork seals when 5 mins of reading here would tell you how to avoid that.

Not trying to be mean but you are barking up the wrong tree. People on here with 300k on their bikes. Like going on a toyota forum and calling them unreliable after flash tuning... the most basic of tunes.

I daily ride my bike. Temps well over 100F on the regular. Thing takes all the abuse.
 

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I’ve never had a bike that didn’t need to replace the fork seals including Harley’s. Bugs and grit get jammed through the dust cover and create leaks often. My experience is bike with longer travel tend to get more leaks. Fork covers make the seals last a lot longer.
 

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I was just kidding, the bike is flawless, perfect, needs no further improvement or changes, not sure what I was thinking. The other hundreds of bikes I have owned are actually junk, they should have all behaved exactly like this one.
I did end up buying a Husqvarna Norden 901 and ran the Pa Wilds BDX on it right out of the box, I was blown away by its performance. When I got home I commuted to work on the perfect, flawless, amazing Super Tenere, which was also enjoyable, the cruise control worked intermittently, but a great start and end to the day non the less.
 

Checkswrecks

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A poor tradesman will always blame his tools. ;)
It's not about blaming tools, it's about maintenance.
Lowryride's bike is now a 9 year old and who knows the background before he got it.

But then, to talk never-EVER ending maintenance headaches, buy a f*ckingboat (yes, that's one word ;) ) or RV.
 

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I do have an antique Ski Nautique, 27 years old, that I enjoy working on and keeping it tip top. The kids all ski and wakeboard so it gets used hard when they come home. I enjoy working on motorbikes too. Not sure if I'm a poor tradesman, worked in the motorcycle business for years, have done some racing off-road and on, but who knows, maybe I am compared to Riva, who may be Cal Crutchlow lurking on the Yamaha board? Most folks I ride with and work on bikes with would not make Riva's claim though.
 

Chav

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I was just kidding, the bike is flawless, perfect, needs no further improvement or changes, not sure what I was thinking. The other hundreds of bikes I have owned are actually junk, they should have all behaved exactly like this one.
I did end up buying a Husqvarna Norden 901 and ran the Pa Wilds BDX on it right out of the box, I was blown away by its performance. When I got home I commuted to work on the perfect, flawless, amazing Super Tenere, which was also enjoyable, the cruise control worked intermittently, but a great start and end to the day non the less.
I think maybe everyone got the ring impression from each other but as a new ST owner who has a practically brand new bike that’s 12 years old I can say that time wears thing was well and miles and often times miles keep things working well it seems. I’ll also say the the general consensus from 99% of owners is that the bike is way to care for and reliable. I think that’s why people are sort of dismissive. Being someone who has owned vintage Harley’s which are never fixed and someone who owned a 2020 z900rs which was the best bike I’ve ever owned with the exception of constant chain and tire maintenance I think the ST is practically the perfect bike but all mechanical things have outliers. I deal with that scenario everyday. The parts you start making work together the more crazy of the wall stuff that can happen.
 

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"PhilPhillipines" has been reincarnated…. ;)
LOL!
I just looked on here after a second visit in 3 years and this was the first thread I looked at as it seemed contrary to my, and others opinion, and piqued my interest.
I am still remembered?? I have never said a bad word about the ST10 that I can recall.
What makes you feel I have been reincarnated?
Intrigued,
Phil
 

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But then, to talk never-EVER ending maintenance headaches, buy a f*ckingboat (yes, that's one word ;) ) or RV.
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Ya boats need some maintenance but that’s small potatoes compared to fuel cost to run them.
My 20ft 5.7L marine power boat averages 10gallons an hour of fuel. My 55gallon tank is empty in about 5-6 hours.
I don't know why there is beef about basic maintenance on anything that you use, its part of the game.
One knows nothing about maintenance cost and time till you get involved in this winter sport, some say for every hour of fun expect to spend an hour fixing. They are a money pit.
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lund

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"Best bike" is no different than "best oil".
Actually "BEST bike as you claim doesn't care about BEST oil" its that good.
But "BEST oil as you claim is best used in certain bikes because they need all the help they can get to survive, they are that finicky, thus being short on being the BEST bike overall.
Reason why internet is so good at creating mystical legends that so many will buy. When you are within cell service who cares, youtube it.
 
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