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[antiwaki]

Hi everybody and thanks for accepting me in your forum, I hope to learn a lot from you guys.
I´ve just had a bad accident in my BMW R1200GS 2012 and it was a total loss, fortunatelly I´m ok, and ready to get back in the saddle again (literally) and try the new 2014 Yamaha Super Tenere.
I´ll pick it up tomorrow, As I´m new to Yamaha and to the Super Tenere, for the looks of the motorcycle I was expecting it to be a lot lighter than the GS, but I found out when I review the specs, it is several kilos heavier, hope this won´t afect the handling.
Is there any ex BMWGS that could give me some tips?

 

[rem]

Welcome on, antiwaki from Mexico City. Sorry to hear about your accident, and glad you're OK. It maybe was a good thing in the long run, as you ended up with a Tenere. There are many ex-BMW folks here. No worries. The Tenere is extremely well balanced and it will feel like a dirt bike once you get rolling along the road. ::004:: to the Forum. R. ::022:: Let's be careful out there.

 

[clint64]

Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear about your accident but at least you are able to get back to riding. I find the Super Tenere to be very well balanced with the weight difference a non issue. You will find many ex BMW riders here as well. I came to the Super Tenere from a BMW K1200S and have truly enjoyed the bike.

 

[snakebitten]

You found the Tenere was heavier when you "reviewed the specs"
I'm curious if you would have "felt" it was heavier if you did NOT review the specs?

Also note that there are several sources that have documented the Real world ready to ride weight to be almost identical.

Regardless, weight is not nearly the issue with these huge giant monster bikes than it is when comparing MX bikes. In other words.......yea, this bike is heavy. But you had to know that without ever reviewing any specs.

Have fun. Enjoy. I suspect if you liked your GS, you'll like the Tenere too.

 

[trikepilot]

Welcome Antiwaki! You will love the Tenere.

Check this out - http://www.touratech-usa.com/Adventure/Blog/QGfaOh/Weekend-Weigh-In-Results

These are some real-world weights that get beyond all the hype in the manufacturers specs.

 

[k woo]

Welcome to the group Antiwaki. I would like to get your opinion of the bikes after you have been on the Tenere for awhile. 8)

 

[Karson]

Welcome from Iowa! ::004::

 

[escapefjrtist]

Welcome and congrats on the new Tenere.

--G

 

[BAILEY]

Welcome!!

 

[barkingllizard]

congrats, with a simple hello, antiwaki.....

 

[antiwaki]

Thanks for your warm welcome, you made me feel at home. And thanks for your thoughts about my accident.
To be totally honest with you, I have never ridden a Super Tenere before, I bought it without a test drive, (????) only with the recommendations of close friends, the looks, the price, the Yamaha and the Tenere image, etc.
I will be getting it until tomorrow until the licence plate arrives, here in Mexico you cannot ride without the plates.
Thanks for the link on weights I was only checking the data on the specs sheets of each motorcycle STenere 578lb/262kg and BMW R1200GS 524lb/238Kg (54lb/24kg), In my mind the R1200GS was too heavy and not very maneuverable in slow speeds or in traffic, or backing it up, but once in the road it was great.
I will let you know my opinion between the two motorcycles.
Thanks

 

[Rasher]

I had a 2008GS and rode several 2010 - 2012 models, the S10 holds the weight lower and feels no heavier, I found it easier to balance at low speed and the reach to the floor a bit better as your legs aren't splayed so wide.

Not forgetting BMW are not very honest and tend to weigh the bikes without any extras so ABS / TC all add weight, plus they remove the battery / handlebars / wheels - if ever you see a magazine test of any BMW where they actually weigh the bike it will come in about 20Kg heavier than the spec sheet so in reality there is much less in it to begin with.

The S10 turns slower at speed (wind on a bit more preload to speed it up a little) but on the flip side is amazingly stable, once you are used to it there is not a lot in it when it comes to handling.

The suspension on the S10 also feels a bit more plus, but it will take you a while to get used to fork dive again

I am sure you will love the Yamaha ::008::

 

[antiwaki]

Great input, exactly what i need to get into the STen.
Thanks

 

[GrahamD]

::004:: along antiwaki from Australia.

Hope it all works out.

The real weights as compared...Not all stock, some have light pipes and some have bash plates and stock muflers..
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12836924&postcount=2381

BMW GS 1200 Adventure.

Claimed weight: 90% fueled, road ready: 259kg's
Actual weight: Fully fueled: 273kg's

Yamaha Super Tenere

Claimed weight (wet): 261kg's
Actual weight (Wet): 268kg's

BMW GS 1200
The GS has a 20 litre tank. It also had ABS fitted, but none of the other optional extras offered by BMW. Fitted with the Remus slip on, thus also benefitting from no Cat.

Claimed weight: 90% fueled, road ready: 229kg's
Actual weight: Fully fueled: 242kg's

KTM 990 Adventure

Claimed weight (Dry): 209kg's
Actual weight (Wet): 240kg's

So you are adding 26kg or 10% maximum but probably less.

 

[RED CAT]

Welcome and don't believe the manufacturers published weights. The S10 is only 20 lbs heavier than the Standard GS. I owned both and weight them myself. Having owned both, I much prefer the S10. Just ride, ride, ride, change tires, add gas.

 

[Ramseybella]

"Hola Amigo!"

Glad all is well..

 

[Salmon Sam]

Welcome. I like the GS. I love the ST. Interested in your impressions once you ride it. ::022::

 

[Fatallybitten]

Welcome Antiwaki. I look forward to hearing your impressions of the Super Tenere after you have put some miles on it. I picked up a 2013 model last fall, coming off a KTM 990 Adv. Weight is an overblown stat. The real test is how it handles loaded up with all the gear you pack on it for the big trips. Smart choices for what to bring, what to leave at home and how to pack what you bring have a bigger effect than the slight differences in claimed dry weight. On my Yukon trip last year I saw many, many, many overloaded bikes. There seems to be a misconception that these big adventure bikes let you load them to the gills without affecting the handling. So wrong. I call it the Ewan and Charley effect.

Weight rant over. Enjoy the ride!

Cheers, David

 

[antiwaki]

I just got my ST and rode it some miles(Just 20 minutes ride), great, great surprise, it is really smooth, very easy to handle at low speeds, I cannot feel the weight, it is so silent, (point for the ST) the ride is so soft, a lot less engine vibration, therefore handlebar vibration as well, (point for the ST) great grip at low speeds, the engine sounds a little forced when revved, but I think is a brand new engine ???, the ST ABS let the back tire slip a little more than the GS, on the GS the ABS did not let any tire slip at all, maybe, because of this, the stopping distance is better in the ST.(Point for the ST)
Regrets: No center stand, no passenger handle bars, the top rack is too small, I think it will need an additional top rack for a decent Top case, I did not like the gear indicator, the gear number disappears every time you pull the clutch, a dash appears instead, why do I need a dash when I´m standing in a red light, with the clutch in, and I don´t know which gear I´m in. (point for the GS).
Great experience so far, I´ll let you know more later.
Broadcasting from Mexico.