Needed: leads on salvage parts

[trikepilot]

This might be a bit hard to find... but I thought I'd see what the collective intelligence of the forum could turn up. I fear that te S10 is likely too new a bike to have much a salvage part market yet. But you never know...

Weekend before last, I fubared the front end of my S10 while out trail riding. Short story is that a tree branch shish-kebabbed the tiny space below the lexan windscreen and the black plastic dash. the stick ended up under the speedo and as the bike kept going, it basically ripped off the front end. Zip ties and duct tape got me home where I tore apart the front end of the bike to find the "stay" that was broken. Much to my delight, I discovered the plastic "stay" that I needed was on the fiche and cost only $64 including shipping. But then I was dismayed to hear five days later from Ron Ayers that the part is on back order from Yamaha till the end of the month.

So I am looking at a dismembered bike with great riding weather at hand. It has almost too much to bear. I guess I will wait till the part comes in if I have to, but I wanted to see if there was anyone out there that might have a lead on just such a part. The Yamaha part number is - 23P-28356-00-00.

Here is where the part actually sits on the S10

The part (23P-28356-00-00) is circled in red

Thanks for any leads!!!

 

[EricV]

Well, that sucks! Let's just say you aren't the only one waiting for that part...

Not mine - http://www.crashedtoys.com/Inventory.aspx?InventoryID=1105572#de61fee9215a422fb8fad21575dcde8f

 

[trikepilot]

Eric - Well... I'll be damned! That is almost a clone of my bike. Guess I won't find my part there.

On a side note... that same ride saw the S10 napping a few times on some really steep and rocky terrain and your Rumbux bars were just the ticket. They did a great job of protecting the bike and gave me the confidence to get out there.

I will keep looking and keep my order in for the backordered part. Meanwhile I am going to see if I cannot use some ingenuity and epoxy to cobble together a fix that will get me through the next few weeks till the new part comes in.

 

[EricV]

I will keep looking and keep my order in for the backordered part. Meanwhile I am going to see if I cannot use some ingenuity and epoxy to cobble together a fix that will get me through the next few weeks till the new part comes in.

That's the spirit! Ugly is just fine if it means you can go ride. ::008::

Glad to hear the Rumbux did it's job and let you ride out of what you rode in to.

 

[terrysig]

trashed my front end hitting a deer one year ago this past weekend and this part was backordered then...hate to be a bummer but it took until July to get in. I also tried salvage route last year but no luck. Also thought about ABS weld but mine exploded into shards.

good luck

 

[Checkswrecks]

I think you are going to be right, in that the bike is too new to have lots of parts bikes out there.
Further, it won't be surprising if for this bike, this stay becomes THE repair part that is always in short supply. Maybe think about it like this:


Just about EVERYTHING on the front of the bike is mounted to it so it is going to take more than it's own share of impacts,


we are torquing huge loads onto it with big windshields on MadStad brackets,


people drill it for all sorts of fasteners and switches, etc.


Yamaha runs a model for about 4 years before refreshing the line and the Tenere has been out since the beginning of 2010, so 2010/2011/2012/2013 then refresh next year means a changed part?


Of course you could also be the guinea pig and try taking the pieces to an actual plastic welder. Take the windshield, headlight shell, instrument cluster, etc for the guy to keep the alignment of the bolt holes.
(I would not try this one at home and expect it to last.)

 

[trikepilot]

Say it ain't so, TerrySig!! Waiting several months to get that part will truly suck. Riding weather is finally here and I need to make up for all the lost time this past winner that my new-to-me S10 sat covered waiting for this exact weather. I have the next three days off so I will gather all the pieces and see if I cannot cannot cobble together a workable solution with epoxy and some external metal fixation that will get me through some less rigorous road riding and my commute to work.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Say it ain't so, TerrySig!! Waiting several months to get that part will truly suck. Riding weather is finally here and I need to make up for all the lost time this past winner that my new-to-me S10 sat covered waiting for this exact weather. I have the next three days off so I will gather all the pieces and see if I cannot cannot cobble together a workable solution with epoxy and some external metal fixation that will get me through some less rigorous road riding and my commute to work.

Epoxy and "cold-wled" products won't hold for the torsion and pounding the uprights take.
You really need it properly plastic welded.


Google Map your area and type in the following string: plastic fabrication company
There look to be a number in your area. Call your local Tractor Supply and a few auto body shops if none of the Google results don't work.

 

[EricV]

I would be tempted to find a metal fab shop and see what they might be willing to do. A ring to bolt the headlights to, a couple of tabs on the side, some gusseted upper 'fingers' for the screen, then some bits of tubing and plate for the mounting. It doesn't need to be an exact duplicate, just allow for the necessary bits to bolt up.

 

[terrysig]

Say it ain't so, TerrySig!! Waiting several months to get that part will truly suck. Riding weather is finally here and I need to make up for all the lost time this past winner that my new-to-me S10 sat covered waiting for this exact weather. I have the next three days off so I will gather all the pieces and see if I cannot cannot cobble together a workable solution with epoxy and some external metal fixation that will get me through some less rigorous road riding and my commute to work.

That was my exact thought when I got the bad news. Apparently unlike many parts this one is exclusive to our bike. And like noted holds the front end together. There is absolutely no way to ride it without this part...or as was mentioned some mockup.

Luckily I have several bikes so just picked others until it was fixed. Hey that was a year ago I would have figured the backorder to get better?

And you can try all the other dealers you want...for me it was a backorder out of Japan.

Good luck...i wondered at the time and still wonder why it isnt't metal or aluminum?

 

[trikepilot]

The backorder issue is indeed a national one - or at least this is what I was told.

But I took the 4 pieces of the "stay" and using some of that homegrown ingenuity that I developed with my KLR, I was able to cobble together a "fix" that should be robust enough for road riding over the next few weeks till the part arrives. I'll just have to get the ole red KLR mule back out for the offroad adventures.

Worse yet, I found two other broken plastic bits that I can limp by with temporary fixes for but I fear that they too might be backordered when I go to get them replaced.

 

[greg the pole]

shitty.

did you try any of the canadian dealers? probably the same story.
I know Rem did a number on his, the whole upper fairing exploded on him.
The plastic is a nice design (for weight) but I wonder why they didn't do something a bit stronger

 

[Checkswrecks]

shitty.

did you try any of the canadian dealers? probably the same story.
I know Rem did a number on his, the whole upper fairing exploded on him.
The plastic is a nice design (for weight) but I wonder why they didn't do something a bit stronger

A) The part costs $61 and not the hundreds it would be in steel, as usually done.
B) Those uprights would skewer somebody hapless enough to hit them if they were steel, and all the OEMs have stepped up their accident mitigation. For example, windshields use rubber nuts to separate. We used to think the bike would move away like this and smaller bikes generally will:

While heavier bikes are more likely to stay upright like in this model, used when developing the Goldwing airbag system:

 

[greg the pole]

A) The part costs $61 and not the hundreds it would be in steel, as usually done.
B) Those uprights would skewer somebody hapless enough to hit them if they were steel, and all the OEMs have stepped up their accident mitigation. For example, windshields use rubber nuts to separate. We used to think the bike would move away like this and smaller bikes generally will:

While heavier bikes are more likely to stay upright like in this model, used when developing the Goldwing airbag system:

good point.

 

[trikepilot]

No. I did not try Canada. I am not too concerned now that I have made these fixes to get me through to the day that the new part gets here. At least now, I can road ride and make my 3x a week work commute if the weather is good.

This is a pic of the reassembled S10 - you'd be hard pressed to tell that anything was wrong

And here is a peek under the speedo where you can see a large missing chunk from the arm of the stay along with a bolt I used to wire the junction back together.

Not unlike wring and pinning together a broken bone/joint like and orthopedic surgeon, I basically was able to drill/screw and then wire back together the 4 broken pieces of the stay. It is pretty damn robust to be honest and I think it will actually hold up pretty well. I took off the CalSci tall screen that came with the bike from its previous owner and put on the shorter OEM screen in an effort to reduce leverage on the fixed bracket.

Now I am going to go out for a ride!!

 

[trikepilot]

Well, I'll be... Got an email late last nite from Ron Ayers saying my part had shipped. So I guess the backorder resolved itself. I just hope it's the right part.

But the cobbled together repair I made held up well yesterday as I ran all over town on the S10.

 

[thfraser]

Glad to hear that the part is on its way! Best wishes on the reassembly.