Flashing oil light

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Ever since I got my 2013 ST, the oil light flashes. I know what it's supposed to mean and the manual says to take it to the dealer to get it checked/fixed. I've put 10,000 miles on the bike with it flashing the whole time. I know nothing is wrong with the oil and it's not leaking or anything. The stupid thing just flashes and annoys the hell out of me. My question: Is that the only way to get it to stop flashing? Take it to the dealer? Or is there something I can do myself to reset it?
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when I had this happen on my 12, my dealer suggested it was a sticky sensor,
a leftover piece from early Yamaha models, that did not receive a redesign for the Super Tenere...
disconcerting yes, eventually, for me, it went away with the next oil change, however,
my dealer may have hit it with a hammer or something else like that...

I have not had this happen on my 15, with 56 000 kms.....
 

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I really don't know what kind of sensor the Super Tenere's have for the oil. My old 1989 FJ1200 had a solid state sensor that started doing that after about 130,000 miles. It was a pretty simple job of just swapping with a new sensor. I will have to look at my Super T and see what it has. I am curious now.
 

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The switch is bolted to the bottom of the oil pan and checking the switch is on page 8-150 of the Gen1 maintenance manual. You simply hold it right-side up and then upside down.


Maximum level is 484-536 ohms.
Min is 114 - 126 ohms.
 

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sgrider said:
Ever since I got my 2013 ST, the oil light flashes. I know what it's supposed to mean and the manual says to take it to the dealer to get it checked/fixed. I've put 10,000 miles on the bike with it flashing the whole time. I know nothing is wrong with the oil and it's not leaking or anything. The stupid thing just flashes and annoys the hell out of me. My question: Is that the only way to get it to stop flashing? Take it to the dealer? Or is there something I can do myself to reset it?
Thanks in advance for the input.
You're a brave guy.

I don't think I could have gone 5 miles without wanting to know exactly what was causing that.

That's about my limit of what distance I think I can make, if I just *had* to keep moving, without (or with intermittent) oil flow.

5 miles is a long way on a motor without oil flowing...

Why would anyone risk that, other than being life threatening in the backcountry? That's "new cycle" expensive to fix, if you're wrong.
 

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mebgardner said:
You're a brave guy.

I don't think I could have gone 5 miles without wanting to know exactly what was causing that.

That's about my limit of what distance I think I can make, if I just *had* to keep moving, without (or with intermittent) oil flow.

5 miles is a long way on a motor without oil flowing...

Why would anyone risk that, other than being life threatening in the backcountry? That's "new cycle" expensive to fix, if you're wrong.
Why do you think the oil wouldn't be flowing if the oil level light was flashing?

To the OP - if it's actually flashing continuously, that needs to be sorted. I would consider the sensor non-functioning in that case. Warranty? If not, do test it and replace as needed. The oil sensor is an oil level, not an oil pressure, sensor. It can come on when the oil is cold and you take off w/o a full warm up, and it will go off on it's own, or often if you stop after only a couple of miles, shut the bike off, turn the key off, then re=start the bike. It can flash w/o any pattern if your oil level is right on the edge of setting the sensor off, but that shouldn't be a regular pattern, just as the bike leans or accelerates/decelerates, etc. It's also not uncommon to see the oil light go off when the oil is dirty and you're close to your change interval. I use 5k, the US manual says 4k and the EU manual says 6200 (10k kms), so what ever works for you.

In the end, these bikes don't typically lose or burn oil. The first Gen bikes, which you have, do run some into the air box at sustained high rpms, (5k and above), but otherwise, you're probably unlikely to lose any significant amount of oil between changes w/o a trail incident of some kind, which hopefully you would be aware of. Still, the sensor is only around $40 p/n 23P-85720-00-00 Oil Level Gauge Assy.
 

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EricV said:
Why do you think the oil wouldn't be flowing if the oil level light was flashing?

To the OP - if it's actually flashing continuously, that needs to be sorted. I would consider the sensor non-functioning in that case. Warranty? If not, do test it and replace as needed. The oil sensor is an oil level, not an oil pressure, sensor. It can come on when the oil is cold and you take off w/o a full warm up, and it will go off on it's own, or often if you stop after only a couple of miles, shut the bike off, turn the key off, then re=start the bike. It can flash w/o any pattern if your oil level is right on the edge of setting the sensor off, but that shouldn't be a regular pattern, just as the bike leans or accelerates/decelerates, etc. It's also not uncommon to see the oil light go off when the oil is dirty and you're close to your change interval. I use 5k, the US manual says 4k and the EU manual says 6200k (10k kms), so what ever works for you.

In the end, these bikes don't typically lose or burn oil. The first Gen bikes, which you have, do run some into the air box at sustained high rpms, (5k and above), but otherwise, you're probably unlikely to lose any significant amount of oil between changes w/o a trail incident of some kind, which hopefully you would be aware of. Still, the sensor is only around $40 p/n 23P-85720-00-00 Oil Level Gauge Assy.
Ah. Schooled again. Thank You.
 

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mebgardner said:
Ah. Schooled again. Thank You.
Just sharing information. Knowing what the sensor is measuring helps us to decide if we need to be stressed or not when the light goes off. I've had several modern Yamaha bikes for long periods of miles now, so I'm used to their oddities. With the dry sump engine design of the Super Tenere, there is really only about a quart of oil in the engine at any given time. The oil level sensor is detecting oil level in the "oil tank" as I understand, not the engine, so even with low oil level in the oil tank, (secondary containment of the oil), the engine is not starving for oil. You are recirculating the oil more often, but modern engine oils rarely get stressed to the point of actually breaking down, (under our 'normal' conditions and use over what most of us consider a 'normal' oil change interval). Dirty with combustion waste byproducts, certainly, but not really lacking in their ability to lubricate very well.

The low oil level light is more of a WTF? light. Should I have warmed up the bike a bit more? Am I due for an oil change? Did that rock I just hit crack something, (oh Sh**!), and they you decide the appropriate action for the situation. If you're "Just Riding Along" (JRA), and it comes on for no apparent reason, you bet I'd be curious, but if a cursory inspection reveals no obvious signs of oil loss, I'd not stress too much for the rest of the ride, just be a little more aware of the noises the bike is making. Checking the sight glass when you checked things out would tell you if you had some oil or not, after that, it's just an annoyance.
 

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EricV said:
Why do you think the oil wouldn't be flowing if the oil level light was flashing?

To the OP - if it's actually flashing continuously, that needs to be sorted. I would consider the sensor non-functioning in that case. Warranty? If not, do test it and replace as needed. The oil sensor is an oil level, not an oil pressure, sensor. It can come on when the oil is cold and you take off w/o a full warm up, and it will go off on it's own, or often if you stop after only a couple of miles, shut the bike off, turn the key off, then re=start the bike. It can flash w/o any pattern if your oil level is right on the edge of setting the sensor off, but that shouldn't be a regular pattern, just as the bike leans or accelerates/decelerates, etc. It's also not uncommon to see the oil light go off when the oil is dirty and you're close to your change interval. I use 5k, the US manual says 4k and the EU manual says 6200 (10k kms), so what ever works for you.

In the end, these bikes don't typically lose or burn oil. The first Gen bikes, which you have, do run some into the air box at sustained high rpms, (5k and above), but otherwise, you're probably unlikely to lose any significant amount of oil between changes w/o a trail incident of some kind, which hopefully you would be aware of. Still, the sensor is only around $40 p/n 23P-85720-00-00 Oil Level Gauge Assy.
typically don't burn oil... :D
Mine did. But great info about the oil light as always Eric. Incidentally, after a quick 3.5k km oil change the bike used zero oil, and still starts and goes like a banshee. must have done something right ::015::
https://thetenerist.wordpress.com/2017/03/04/yamaha-super-tenere-xt-1200-top-end-rebuild/
 

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That's awesome Greg, glad you're sorted. Quite a journey and well documented too. ::008::

And you're absolutely correct, "usually" they don't burn oil! :D
 

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After a number of days at high (80+) speed, my Gen1 would have the oil light come on when cold in the morning and needed a couple hundred cc's a couple of times.
 

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EricV said:
That's awesome Greg, glad you're sorted. Quite a journey and well documented too. ::008::

And you're absolutely correct, "usually" they don't burn oil! :D
yep. The whole motor rebuild was due to eight $2 dollar seals... :D
 
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