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gmtech

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yea mine are fine and everyd ay for the last two weeks ive been riding in the morning the temps are between 19F and 29f
and mine look good as new bike only has 1500 miles on it but i got it in december so all of those miles are cold weather
 

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On my 2nd rear Battlewing. No problems with either. Only had the bike one winter but haven't had an issue, and I keep a close eye on tires.
 

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That's the first time I have ever seen a tyre smash...

Is that the new long life ceramic model. ::025::
 

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I have ridden through two rears and one front and have a set with less than thousand miles on them in the garage. I like them both in performance and price.
 

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This one is owner induced, which is why the claim would have been refused.
Cold would aggravate how far the cracks extend, but
the point of origin is a totally typical sidewall pinch or impact that results from impact.
(I'd want to see the interior to tell for sure if it was an impact or pinch.)




In the old days, we'd have to go to school or learn OJT from the old guys and keep reference books around.
Now, there are a number of great damage guides available to anybody.
This was pretty much my first Google hit; see pages 19, 22, and especially 31: http://www.euroratas.lt/galery/_euroratas/kita/naudinga_informacija/radial_tire_conditins_analysis_guide.pdf
 

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So the fact the Bridgestone determined it was from freezing temperature and acknowledges that their tires are not rated for freeze temps didn't factor into it???? ::)

Not buying any Bridgestone tires, when they admit they may do this when the temps drop below freezing.
 

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offcamber said:
So the fact the Bridgestone determined it was from freezing temperature and acknowledges that their tires are not rated for freeze temps didn't factor into it? ??? ::)

Not buying any Bridgestone tires, when they admit they may do this when the temps drop below freezing.

Umm, that big scuff next to the point of impact is like the blonde exclaiming how close a meteor came to the end of a road:



;)


What hasn't been mentioned is that the original impact did not have to be while the tire was cold or within a set time before the failure. Tire pressure changes pretty fast with temperature change and the belt material is more brittle when cold. The owner likely hit a pothole or something hard enough to cut the internal plies on his last ride before he parked the bike. Roll the now-frozen tire or otherwise move/stretch the cords, and I could see a surprise blow out "for no reason."


The fact though is that the same Fed Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) will apply to any other tire that you want to buy, so they will be comparable.


I work airplanes and don't remember the environmental requirement for tire durability tests that you can probably find it surfing the FMVSS. It's like -20 or -30F for airplane and summer car tires, so motorcycle tires will be in that area. Note that the temp is for an impact at -20-30F, not just to exist when it's that cold.

psst, know what else I heard on the neenernets . . .
::003::
 

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How many thousands, or hundreds of thousands, of Bridgestones are out there? One case known? Color me skeptical. The two posts from StuartV, #66 and 67 on the KLR thread might be worth considering... personally, I don't know the bike or the tire, but we have a lot of ST1300 folk here... maybe someone can comment on Stuart's theory?
 

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I think you guys missed the point. The op didn't ask for a warranty claim,just wanted to know why they cracked. There answer was freezing temps. Well 3/4 of the country experiences that regularly. It might be worth mentioning they are a warm weather tire since they are a touring tire.
 

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offcamber said:
I think you guys missed the point. The op didn't ask for a warranty claim,just wanted to know why they cracked. There answer was freezing temps. Well 3/4 of the country experiences that regularly. It might be worth mentioning they are a warm weather tire since they are a touring tire.

Didn't miss what you were trying to say when I wrote that freezing could have played a part in failure of pre-existing damage.


I also already addressed the fact that motorcycle tires are warm weather (3-season) construction, good to about -20F.
Winter rubber is good to something like -50F.


But the point is that the pre-existing damage at the center of the sidewall separation is operational, not environmental.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
Didn't miss what you were trying to say when I wrote that freezing could have played a part in failure of pre-existing damage.


I also already addressed the fact that motorcycle tires are warm weather (3-season) construction, good to about -20F.
Winter rubber is good to something like -50F.


But the point is that the pre-existing damage at the center of the sidewall separation is operational, not environmental.
I would have thought that the Bridgestone Experts would have used this supposedly pre-existing damage as an excuse for the cracking and would not have admitted that their tyres are prone to cracking under freezing conditions. Amazing the information that can be obtained from close scrutiny of a photograph.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=204116&highlight=cracked+tires
Different type of damage on an older model (aged rubber) of race tire that have seen a number of thermal cycles.
We'd have to see more to tell about these.


Yes, I do this for a living.
::)
Well, that link was for the benefit of others that don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about tires like you, Checkswrecks. If you had read through the four pages of the thread instead of jumping to conclusions, you would have read about multiple senarios of different brands of NEW tires, street tires, race tires, etc. :)
 
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