Baja Design Pro Squadron vs Piaa 530s

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dang it man, 500 bucks for aux lighting, i would have a f'n baby if a rock come up and busted it out.

how durable are these things?
 

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Sweet setup Avgeek!

Shovelhead, I wish $500 was what the whole lighting project cost!
But no regrets here. And they are rugged as can be. Besides, I think they have a "you can't break these" type warranty.
Or as close to it as you get.
 

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snakebitten said:
Sweet setup Avgeek!

Shovelhead, I wish $500 was what the whole lighting project cost!
But no regrets here.
snake I've seen yer rig.

yer in a different tax bracket than me... ::013::
 

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Shovelhead said:
snake I've seen yer rig.

yer in a different tax bracket than me... ::013::
Admittedly, I took on the BMW GSA budget. Tired of the apples-oranges comparisons.

Don't expect others to feel compelled. But I do feel the Tenere is worthy!
 

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Shovelhead said:


Holy crap!!!

Appears to be fairly durable. ::025::
There is a big difference in Light Output of Baja Designs (BD) vs. The Other Guys
A light with larger reflectors and better engineering will absolutely destroy the competitor. If you have any issues, you're covered with our Lifetime Warranty
Take a look at this comparison of Baja Designs vs. The Other Guys



Thank You,
Bailey, Baja Designs
 

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snakebitten said:
Sweet setup Avgeek!

Shovelhead, I wish $500 was what the whole lighting project cost!
But no regrets here. And they are rugged as can be. Besides, I think they have a "you can't break these" type warranty.
Or as close to it as you get.
Thanks Snake! It took some time and budget to get there, but I like my light setup so well, I need to upgrade my truck and quad!
 

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As I read it, this was originally an either-or question in the original post and it was answered in post # 3 as follows:


Tenerator12 said:
Depends on intended use. If you spend most of your time on pavement, the extra 200.00 is best spent elsewhere, IMO.

I own the squadron LEDs. They definitely throw more light than the PiAA 530's, but dimming them for on-coming traffic is a must because the beam dispersion is in a large circle, which is great for off road. Mine are dimmed while in low beam and switch to full bright in high beam, through the optional PWM dimmer unit.

The PIAAs have a more directed beam that is intended for on-road use. They are plenty bright for that purpose. The don't dazzle on-coming traffic, so there is no need for a dimmer. They also do a great job of filling in the dead spots left by the OEM headlight, and also help for corners. With the Squadrons set full bright, you are illuminating road signs way above your head as well as the roadside signs. The BAJAs are very rugged, and built to Milspec. I've never heard of them malfunctioning because of rough off-road riding, but I have read about cases of the PIAAs coming apart inside when subjected to the same.

Anyway, many plusses and minuses that are on/off road specific.

IF you want totally legal fog lights, then the PIAA function just about the same as a set of Chinese 3W fog lights. Tenerator and Fred covered that.


But the PIAAs are overpriced for what they are and fog lights don't cut it for long distance at night or rolling up & down backroads with deer, which is common in a large portion of the country. So I'll again agree with Tenerator's thought that for fog lights and at that price you can do better elsewhere than the PIAAs. With the 3 watt LED PIAAs you are paying extra for the name. Plus, the same mask which makes the PIAA compliant for traffic will cut off the light pattern where you want it to be in a rolling up/down road, and fog lights don't have the reach for night time highway driving.


So as Tenerator wrote in the 3rd post, the answer "Depends on intended use" seems appropriate and my own need for night highway and rolling up/down in the woods is why I have a non-compliant Rigid light bar.
 

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I will gladly pay multiple tickets for illegal lights rather than hit a deer I did not see.
 

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Chump said:
Sadly I am pretty much 100% on road. However there are a lot of critters up here that like to roam around at night. I have no problem spending the extra $200 if they are vastly superior. I came off a VStrom and I'm pretty disappointed in the Tenere ' s headlight. That was one thing on the Vee that did not need improvement.
You are an HID conversion away from having awesome headlights. The shutter system works great with HID bulbs, it keeps the low beams traffic friendly and when you hit the high beams you can see FAR into the distance!

I went with the Moriwaki elites a couple years back and they're still working great.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
IF you want totally legal fog lights, then the PIAA function just about the same as a set of Chinese 3W fog lights. Tenerator and Fred covered that.


But the PIAAs are overpriced for what they are and fog lights don't cut it for long distance at night or rolling up & down backroads with deer
The strength of the PIAAs is that unlike most of the LED lights out there they project a focused beam that can be aimed to supplement the low beams, so they can be left on all the time without offending oncoming traffic. In short they double the light available without blinding other road users. For me, living where oncoming traffic is frequent, that's a very valuable function. Of course, if I wanted to project light further I could aim them higher but then that would defeat the purpose of being able to leave them on all the time and improve my low beam lighting...

The Chinese led lights don't have this function, they need to be dimmed for use in traffic. They also break easily, I must have gone through about 5 pairs (replaced under warranty) before I switched to Piaas, which have been flawless.

The PIAAS are also priced very reasonably on Amazon, just $185 a pair when I got them, now $199 with covers. Were well worth the money for me....

http://www.amazon.com/PIAA-5372-530-Driving-Lamp/dp/B0060ZB2MY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435395276&sr=8-1&keywords=piaa+530

I have PIAA 1100s for high beam duties, together with my HID headlights they project light wide and far.



Low beam


High beam
 

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Sorry - we're talking about a different set of PIAAs and Chinese lights. Those look great.


I was referring to the 3W PIAA 530s mentioned previously and a set of Chinese lights I put on a bike I used to have. Not sure if PIAA sourced the lights in China or the Chinese ones were copies, but they worked about the same as the PIAAs on a friend's BMW.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
Sorry - we're talking about a different set of PIAAs and Chinese lights. Those look great.


I was referring to the 3W PIAA 530s mentioned previously and a set of Chinese lights I put on a bike I used to have. Not sure if PIAA sourced the lights in China or the Chinese ones were copies, but they worked about the same as the PIAAs on a friend's BMW.
I have the Piaa LP530s, which are 6W btw (two 3w bulbs in each). http://www.piaa.com/store/p/147-LP-530-Driving-LED-Light-Kit.aspx

What Chinese lights are you referring too? As far as I know Piaa is the only company that makes lights with leds facing rearward into a multireflector. This is what allows them to produce a focused beam that can be used in traffic without dimming.
 

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He had what looked like these mounted low on his forks and the ad says they are 3W, which is what I remember him saying his were when we compared.
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/piaa-530-the-new-line-of-led-driving-and-fog-lights-54752.html

I bought the Chinese lights years (2005?) ago in Thailand (??) and they looked nearly identical. When the bikes were next to each other the outputs looked about the same. Sorry, but that FJR is long gone and I don't remember what Chinese lights they were.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
He had what looked like these mounted low on his forks and the ad says they are 3W, which is what I remember him saying his were when we compared.
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/piaa-530-the-new-line-of-led-driving-and-fog-lights-54752.html
Those are the LP530s, the confusion about the output probably stems from the fact that they have 3 watt bulbs, but two of them per light. There are a lot of Chinese lights with similar or greater output, but I'd be very surprised if they managed to knock off the rearward facing led/multireflector technology that allows them to emit a focused beam.
 
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