All-road training

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Last year i followed a training about seeing the risks in traffic. I really liked the new insights and someone pointing me to my bad habits. I then decided i would do a training each year.

So for this year i booked and all-road training specifically for big heavy ADV’s.
24th of June is the date, looking forward to it! I’ll probably ride the unicorn between all The Bavarian Money Waste’s.
 

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Cool!

I take some training every year. Next week my SIL and I will take a 2 day dirt bike class and on April 30 I have a 6 hour skill refresher
 

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No, the class is on their bikes and is focused on pure dirt riding. I think they supply Yamaha YZ250s they have a class following ours for Moto-X and Scrambles. I expect that I will be the oldest rider in the class *L*
 

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Last friday was the date i had been looking forward to. My statement about the BMW's from my first post was about right. 5 students and one instructor, nice small group.
We had a fantastic day. I was hoping to learn more about riders technique and that was exactly what we got! Our instructor turned out to be 68(!) year old legend Bert Duursma, who has built Dakar bikes for BMW and still takes groupes all over the planet for guided off-road tours. This is his last season as a fulltime instructor.
In the morning we went to a small reasonably flat grass field in the pouring rain and practiced riding slow, tight cornering, ruds, falling and getting up, how to stand etc.
Took only 15min for the first (KTM 1290 super adventure on dedicated street tires) to take a nap. Over the day all went down (some several times) apart from the unicorn and one GS.
After a good lunch (and the weather turned to warm and sunny) we went for some dense forest riding, training on riding and braking hard (ABS screaming) in loose sand, single track and gravel. I think next year i'll do the follow up training (intermediate). Do i need to say the Super Tenere performed like a dream?

Taking pictures is hard so only on the easier sections.

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The training above was the "basic allroad training". Today i booked the "intermediate allroad training" with the same company. This one is going to be a lot harder but i am really looking forward to it. This also means that i will be starting to ride (off-road) as soon as the road salts and brine are gone, practice ahead of this training. And i will be starting to workout again since that benefited me enormously last time! Getting back in shape is always a good reason but one needs a reason apparently ;). Anyway the 24th of may is the date, so plenty of time.

 

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And what happened with the ABS OFF?….in June 2022…
Good question, simple answer. Since you can’t turn it of without modifying the bike or performing a circus act on the centre stand, it remained active. And it didn’t bother me once, it was a good chance for the trainer though (who is just slightly BMW-minded :rolleyes:) to point out what is the “better” bike. In the end it didn’t negatively affect my training at all, and never had the need in “real life” so just fine.
 

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My off road trainer went to great lengths to explain that with an ABS system making several thousand interventions per second it can do a much better job than most humans. One of our first tasks was to deliberately activate it on wet grass to see how effective it is. I certainly wouldn’t want to turn it off.


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Good question, simple answer. Since you can’t turn it of without modifying the bike or performing a circus act on the centre stand, it remained active. And it didn’t bother me once, it was a good chance for the trainer though (who is just slightly BMW-minded :rolleyes:) to point out what is the “better” bike. In the end it didn’t negatively affect my training at all, and never had the need in “real life” so just fine.
Coincidentally, that's why I was asking. As I saw in the last video you sent, that it made them lock the rear wheel… I thought it was the perfect opportunity for someone to “rub it in your face”… that your motorcycle had a defect:)
 

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. . . . it can do a much better job than most humans. . . .
I had a buddy that swore that he could stop better than ABS. So, we set up an area and did some brake training. He got close a few times, but that was in a controlled dry environment. To me ABS has always been intended for those "oh, shit!" moments.
 

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I had a buddy that swore that he could stop better than ABS. So, we set up an area and did some brake training. He got close a few times, but that was in a controlled dry environment. To me ABS has always been intended for those "oh, shit!" moments.
On ice I believe I can usually stop faster without ABS
 
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