2013 Ducati Multistrada Touring S

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Test rode a demo Duc today in my on going quest for 50 more horses and 50 less pounds as previously written a few times on this forum.

If you want to fall back in lust with your Tenere, ride other motorcycles. We all love our Teneres and we love our wives but fall out of lust at times. Sometimes we think a boob job and liposuction for the wife or 50 HP and 50LBS for the cycle might do the trick. ;)

In this case, I drove the lusty red Itallian in search of my 50/50 or in this case 50Hp and 90LBS. The Multi is a looker especially in red. Sitting on her finds the bar sit up ergonomics to be better than the Tenere but the leg room with higher pegs and the tighter space between the seat and bars for me was troublesome.

The engine above 6k is frenetic. The vibration from the seat starting at 5k is better than a handjob. Seriously. If I was a chick I would have bought one one today. The take off from idle is leggy but not from fueling, which was perfect, but too high a first gear. Easily compensated with some throttle but I see why owners drop to a 14 spoke sprocket. Brakes are no better or worse but there is no dive with the new skyhook suspension which I found a bit harsh and unresponsive even is touring mode. Transmission was positive and smooth but required more effort to shift than the Tenere.

Instruments were slick as was the one hand adjustable windscreen which at highest position hit me square in the neck and helmet. The radiator heat came back into my legs but it seemed to run cooler than my Tenere in today's 80 degree heat. Yep, that's why I live in Florida so as not to have to hibernate in February. The Teneree blows all engine heat outside of my left shin if I keep her tucked against my tank snake skins.

Seat is compfy but short and curved if not reportedly improved this year. Wish I did not have spoked wheels due to the maintainence, cleaning hassle and potential problems written about but not experienced. I like the multi wheels but not for any offloading which I do less and less.

I like the lower weight which is ONLY noticed when at a stop or backing up in a driveway. Once riding feels very similar to the Tenere.

So I am disappointed I did not love the Ducati more than I did. For me, it's just not much better than the Tenere. I will not trade that frenetic power over 6 k rpms for the reliability inherent to Yamaha and unreliability inheritance in ducatis.

Did I forget anything? Back in Lust with my Tenere.
 

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I tried the old MTS before the Yamaha, similar sentiments, great blaster but not a great long term prospect if you want to


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Agreed. While I would give up some reliability and pay extra for extra performance, the pro and con equation is just not there for the Duc.
 

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X5 said:
Agreed. While I would give up some reliability and pay extra for extra performance, the pro and con equation is just not there for the Duc.
You may like the Triumph :question: Seems to sit about half way between the two.
 

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Rasher said:
You may like the Triumph :question: Seems to sit about half way between the two.
I'll assume you are speaking of power and not weight or off-road ability.
 

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Yes, the Triumph is reported a few pounds heavier than the Tenere and some suspension issues as well as fit and finish trouble it's first year out. That thrpree cylinder is a sweetheart as I have ridden Speed triples but still not in the same league as the Testastretta DS engine which is 100 lbs lighter too.
 

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The Triumph is not really an off roader by my ride, but does handle very well on the street. Seems like it was a street bike that they tried to make a Dual sporter. I do like the sound of the triple but ergonimically, wasn't pleased with how it "fit" me at 6'2". I guess I'm also a hopeless romantic and I agree, ride something else, it will make you appreciate what you have. I have only sat on a MS, it also didn't fit me very well, Oh well, I guess I'll stick with my S10. :D
 

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I agree that the Ducati is going to take more TLC from the owner than a Yamaha, but they're not the unreliable garage-queens some of you are making them out to be. I tour with guys who run the Multistrada (both the older and the newer ones) and at the end of the day, they're at the hotel knocking down beers right along with the guys on the S10's and BMW GS's. All bikes these days are pretty damn reliable, just some require a little more TLC than others to keep them that way.

The new Multistrada is basically an upright sportbike that will run right next to the pure sportbikes. As such, they're a much better at doing sportbikes things than the S10. They're a VERY suitable track day tool, something I'd never say about my S10. By the same token, the MS is not the easy-going, pleasant, extremely comfortable, all-arounder that can do a mixture of forest service roads, highway, freeway, etc. effortlessly like the S10.

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markjenn said:
I agree that the Ducati is going to take more TLC from the owner than a Yamaha, but they're not the unreliable garage-queens some of you are making them out to be. I tour with guys who run the Multistrada (both the older and the newer ones) and at the end of the day, they're at the hotel knocking down beers right along with the guys on the S10's and BMW GS's. All bikes these days are pretty damn reliable, just some require a little more TLC than others to keep them that way.

The new Multistrada is basically an upright sportbike that will run right next to the pure sportbikes. As such, they're a much better at doing sportbikes things than the S10. They're a VERY suitable track day tool, something I'd never say about my S10. By the same token, the MS is not the easy-going, pleasant, extremely comfortable, all-arounder that can do a mixture of forest service roads, highway, freeway, etc. effortlessly like the S10.

Different bikes for different missions. Before saying one is "better", you have to define the mission.

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Except I did find the MTS comfortable. Not all day comfortable, but for every day, commuting, and the occasional long trip I really liked it.
And the current Ducatis are as reliable as any Japanese bike.


That said, I'd love my bike to lose 100 lbs, but the Tenere is a "work fine, last long time" bike and I'm happy with it.
 

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markjenn said:
and at the end of the day, they're at the hotel knocking down beers right along with the guys on the S10's and BMW GS's.
I assume the GS riders were driven to the Hotel by the BMW Assist wagon ;)
 

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Except I did find the MTS comfortable. Not all day comfortable, but for every day, commuting, and the occasional long trip I really liked it.
And the current Ducatis are as reliable as any Japanese bike.


That said, I'd love my bike to lose 100 lbs, but the Tenere is a "work fine, last long time" bike and I'm happy with it.
Could not disagree with you more that current Ducatis are as reliable as any Japanese bike. Dare you to post that on a Ducati website, or even ask more than a few Ducati owners or dealers that own both Italian and Japan brands and get a wake up call on reality.

While no one here has said they are unreliable garage queens at the other extreme, there is value to reliability and NO ONE has ever accused a Ducati of being near bullet proof like a Yamaha or even Honda!

Silly to say a ducati is a better track bike than a Tenere too. Why state the obvious and how many Tenere riders track their bike or care too? But how many Multistrada owners with their Enduro settings expect to off road their bike? Many, many more than Tenere track expectations. Therefore very few disappointed Tenere owners with track expectations but more than a few disappointed Multistrada dirt expectations. No reasonable person should believe the Multi is as good as a Tenere off road. Same for multi vs. Tenere at the track but track use is never presumed by Tenere owners as off road use/ability is by Multi owners.

In most conversations I try to stick to the 90-10 rule. 90 percent riding in rode and 10 on dirt. Again 90-10 as there are likely 10 percent that ride 90 percent dirt. Hope that was clear... For 90 percent here the Tenere is better than the Multistrada. And per the original intent of this thread, for me certainly.

Don't mean to flame any opinion brothers...
 

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I have a friend in NC who bought one at launch and rides the he'll out of it. He is tall and wanted a sport bike he could sit up straight on. He has paid and gotten the scheduled maintenance and takes good care of the bike, but rides the hell out of it. He has not had any problems, including a gas tank that has had no issues. He rides pavement only and trounces the sport bike riders. I would probably own one if I lived in the mountains and only rode it locally or took short local weekend trips within a couple hundred miles.
 

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coastie said:
I have a friend in NC who bought one at launch and rides the he'll out of it. He is tall and wanted a sport bike he could sit up straight on. He has paid and gotten the scheduled maintenance and takes good care of the bike, but rides the hell out of it. He has not had any problems, including a gas tank that has had no issues. He rides pavement only and trounces the sport bike riders. I would probably own one if I lived in the mountains and only rode it locally or took short local weekend trips within a couple hundred miles.
With that engine (and those vibs) I want to like it more Coastie. Riding thru Picayune Strand State Forest on Panther trails alone at times, I more so don't want to (even imagineation wise ) worry about being a meal after being stranded.
 

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X5 said:
Could not disagree with you more that current Ducatis are as reliable as any Japanese bike. Dare you to post that on a Ducati website, or even ask more than a few Ducati owners or dealers that own both Italian and Japan brands and get a wake up call on reality.

While no one here has said they are unreliable garage queens at the other extreme, there is value to reliability and NO ONE has ever accused a Ducati of being near bullet proof like a Yamaha or even Honda!
I'm an ex-Duck owner, past member of the Mid-Atlantic club, and know a Multi owner pretty well. He's had less issues than a R12GS owner I know.
So here it comes, with a couple of exceptions (We could talk Ducati lifter spalling or we could talk about FJR issues) . . .

. . . the new gen of Ducatis are as reliable as a Honda.

??? OMG I said it!

IF IF IF they are ridden like a Honda.

Unfortunately, the typical owner either babies them and hardly rides them, then complains because they get more attention than his YamaZuki.
Or he beats the crap out of them,
And refuses to antie up for the higher maintenance bill that they definitely come with.
In which case a YamaKawi would have similar issues.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
I'm an ex-Duck owner, past member of the Mid-Atlantic club, and know a Multi owner pretty well. He's had less issues than a R12GS owner I know.
So here it comes, with a couple of exceptions (We could talk Ducati lifter spalling or we could talk about FJR issues) . . .

. . . the new gen of Ducatis are as reliable as a Honda.

??? OMG I said it!

IF IF IF they are ridden like a Honda.

Unfortunately, the typical owner either babies them and hardly rides them, then complains because they get more attention than his YamaZuki.
Or he beats the crap out of them,
And refuses to antie up for the higher maintenance bill that they definitely come with.
In which case a YamaKawi would have similar issues.
My next test ride is on a 2013 BMW K1600GT.... ::017::
 
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