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Yeah, it's kind of shocking really. Such a nice product otherwise. Getting back to a point someone else made, seems that BMW have been starting to lose market share. Perhaps to Ducati in the adventure segment? Sure I read somewhere that many of the YM2017 updates/options are an attempt to...

Yeah, and I didn't mean to reproach anyone. Sorry if it came out that way. BMW does have poorer reliability than Japanese bikes, end of story. Got a nice ride in today, 250 miles. Blew far past first service mileage. Gear shift, tranny, even the cages :) very well behaved today. Do love the...

No man, I know that :) Just I guess posting about a BMW on a non BMW forum is likely to attract a focus on the negative aspects of the bikes. Been around long enough to see the beemer beating get very vigorous at times. At least here we were discussing facts and actual owner experiences. I was...

Guess the only choice I have is to hang onto above statement then. Was aware of repair/recall statistics before buying the GS. Anyway maybe limited value in me continuing to fuel this thread. Original intent was just to check in to my old forum, not to get negged out about my new ride. Anyway...

Agreed. From day 1 I was impressed with S10's generally very smooth shifting. That and very smooth engine above 2k or so. In general I think Japanese bikes are known to have much smoother transmissions. Better? That's maybe a different discussion depending on what is meant by better.... Unless...

Make up your own mind on this.... http://www.r1200gs.info/forum/14-maintenance-modifications/19978-2014-gear-shift-problems-2.html

Thanks for sharing that. Not taking it as you dumping on my new ride although given your experience with your RT I would understand if your were inclined to do that. I'm sure BMW's 2017 transmission updates are a response to some of these concerns from customers, particularly I think clunky gear...

Yes, aware of it. It is changing character with break in, generally getting less cluncky. However, latest development is that I am now missing some fully manual shifts on stronger acceleration from 3-4. Gear shift seems to get stuck and I have to repeat shift and give it a good old bit of the...

Afraid a detailed comparison will be tough as I have had three years break from the YST. Also it was a first edition 2010 model. Think I was about first guy rolling in Sweden as a dealer out in the sticks sold me a demo bike he wasn't really allowed to sell ;) With the YST one of the first...

Yeah Arby's was across the street from where I parked. Personally thought the sign added to the atmosphere there in Payson AZ :D. Need to try the ADV GS forum. Good tip. Was referring to the GS.info forum, the first I found. Never occurred to me that there are more forums... duh :-\

Hi guys. Long time since I frequented this site. See a lot of the founding member names still here ::008::. Sold my Euro model Tenere three years ago because of move from Sweden back to US. EPA wouldn't have it. Three years without a bike and then pulled the trigger on a 2016 R1200GS three...

Bollocks

We are in violent agreement ::003::

So, we are all in agreement then. Our S10's have no character and we love it for that ::022:: Well apart from very occasional hard start which I have only ever had once in three years of ownership. .. BTW, I am strongly under the impression that a flash further reduces character. My engine...

Some of the GS's reported character might have to do the peaks and dips in the torque curve giving an "impression" of character. Add to that torque steer from the boxer motor and/or shaft drive and a snatchy clutch that makes you think your going to lose the bike when you get a bit careless with...

By the sound of these reports ECU Unleashed have finally developed a flash that is as good as the Diapason flash ::025:: ::025:: ::025:: ::025:: ::015::

One trick I sometimes use with gusty conditions is to squeeze the tank with my knees and lean forward. For some reason this seems to help for me. Got to say though that in most places in Sweden I think we get it relatively easy in so far as winds go. Place is thick with pine forest from North to...

Not so much a comment on how handling changes with and without cases in windy conditions, but in general I find the S10 to be much superior to my old DL650 in windy conditions. The DL would have me white knuckled in high, gusty winds. The S10 does get shoved around (I have my OEM cases on 99%...

For sure a flash is more customizable. Yes, I have the ECU flashed. No, I have never tried to jumper the clutch switch. So, I cannot make any comparison. For 250 Euros the flash was big bang for the buck in my opinion. Transformed a frankly annoying stock engine characteristic into a perfectly...

I changed from stock Battlewing to EXP rear at 16000kms. Pleased with Battlewing, and how long it lasted, but it did get very squared off. Was delighted with the feel of the EXP with its high egg shaped profile, great turn in and I now have 12000kms (7500 miles) on it and perhaps 2mm tread left...