ngilbo
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Just had first service today and dealer installed oem grips. Seem to work really well
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I have had both but not on a S10 but on a Honda. I have the OEM heated grips on my 2019 ES and think they work well and as other have said, they function with the built in controls of the bike. The Oxford units come in Sport and Touring models. I had the Touring model. You remove your existing grips and replace with the Oxford grips. Removing the existing grips is usually easy if you have compressed air to lift the grips. And, of course, you may need to scrape excess old glue or material in prep for the Oxfords.Hi Squibb
Thanks for the response. Are the Yamaha grips effective? I know Honda grips (for example) are pretty rubbish.
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Nick
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The Oxford grips will work on a gen 2 and appear in the menu in parallel as well as in series - I tried it tonight and noted 2 things;In another S10 forum, I found this note. The author (casas16) explains why the gen2 ecu does not recognize the oxford grips to be able to control them from the dash. Explain that the difference in connection between the two grips makes the resistance values different. The oem heated grips, are connected in series ... oxford grips are connected in parallel. He connected the oxfords in series (without self controller), and the ecu recognized them. He also comments that only buy the oxford replacement grips ... since it would not occupy the controller and it is cheaper
YAMAHA OEM GRIP
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OXFORD DIAGRAM
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That’s awesome! Thanks for checking it out for us. It’s a much cheaper replacement then having Yamaha OEM replacement.The Oxford grips will work on a gen 2 and appear in the menu in parallel as well as in series - I tried it tonight and noted 2 things;
When connected in series there is very little heat even when on the highest setting
When connected in parallel they get hotter but not as hot as when they are connected through the Oxford inteligent controller.
If anyone wants to try this for themselves, use the yellow/red wire in the black OEM connector and use the black wire in the grey OEM connector, leaving the other 2 (yellow) wires in the OEM connectors connected to nothing, they effectively connect the two OEM heated grips in series.
How does the heat compare to the Gen 2 OEM grips?The Oxford grips will work on a gen 2 and appear in the menu in parallel as well as in series - I tried it tonight and noted 2 things;
When connected in series there is very little heat even when on the highest setting
When connected in parallel they get hotter but not as hot as when they are connected through the Oxford inteligent controller.
If anyone wants to try this for themselves, use the yellow/red wire in the black OEM connector and use the black wire in the grey OEM connector, leaving the other 2 (yellow) wires in the OEM connectors connected to nothing, they effectively connect the two OEM heated grips in series.
Sorry I can't answer that one as my bike never had genuine ones fitted from new.How does the heat compare to the Gen 2 OEM grips?
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When I finally made up a wiring loom so that I kept all the original plugs in place, I did also connect the yellow wires from each of the black & grey OEM connectors together - if that makes sense.As I've got Oxford grips fitted I thought I'd give this a go and the display comes right up as it would with OEM heated grips BUT really disappointed in the heat output, had the bike running for 10 minutes and the grips were luke warm to touch with my bare hands when on max (level 10 in the sub menu), I expected them to be too hot to hold when I tried them without gloves but sadly not.
Just to confirm, I've put the positive wire from each grip to the black wire in the grey connector and the negative wire to the yellow/red wire in the black connector.
Would the gauge of the wire make a difference to the heat output? I only jad 17 amp wire here which is quite a bit thicker than the wire on the grips.
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If you want to source connectors to make up your own plug & play harness, I used these along with some appropriate sized black heatshrink tubingCheers Rob, I'll give that a go tomorrow, I was prooerly delfated when the wouldn't get hot lol
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I have both red wires from the grips connected to the black wire in the grey connector, I can try putting the red wires to the yellow/red wire in the black connector. When you say connect all the black wires together I take it you mean one from each grip to the black wire in the grey connector?try connecting both red wires from the grips to the yellow/red wire and all the black wires together.
Yep, essentially you'd be reversing the polarity from what you currently haveI have both red wires from the grips connected to the black wire in the grey connector, I can try putting the red wires to the yellow/red wire in the black connector. When you say connect all the black wires together I take it you mean one from each grip to the black wire in the grey connector?
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That voltage does seem low and the likely culprit, what voltage are you getting across the yellow/red & black wires in the grey and black connectors when nothing is connected to them?I'll give it a go but I'm sure its the lower voltage thats the issue, surely putting 14v through the wires is going to generate more heat than 6.8v
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