Yamaha Pannier Top Case Lock mechanism assembly print

Z_Tenere

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Bought a 12 ST1200 a few months ago. PO had broken key off in top pannier, he then for some reason dismantled the entire mechanism. So i bought all new locked for the panniers, swapped out the side case locks and then got to the top case. I've spent at least 5hrs on it over the course of 3 nights. Still can't get it to operate correct or without feeling like the key is going to snap off. I'm certain I'm not putting something together just right. I've scoured the inter web to only come up empty handed for a diagram. Any one have some info?

Just to reiterate, NOT looking for how to replace the lock cylinder, I need to know how to assemble the entire latch mechanism. At this point I have a $400 useless box.
 

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Not a problem I have experienced, but I gather the top box mechanism is assembled slightly differently to the side cases: -

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=9970.0

The usual scenario is that the dealer codes the keys & fits a lock set, but forgets to apply threadlock to the retaining screws. These come loose & the lock cylinder jumps out & is lost. The only other thought I have is the lock cylinder itself - is it not quite correctly matched to the key. Somewhere on the Forum I recall mention of being able to adjust/match lock to key. I shall have to search around to see if I can find the thread.

Good luck ..................... KEN
 

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2daMax said:
Not quite sure if i understood the problem. But did u try pressing down the lid n then turn the key?
Yes I agree this very well could be the issue ::026::

In my opinion the lock system on the stock Yamaha bags is crap and should have been redesigned years ago. Other than the lousy lock system I am happy with the Yamaha luggage setup, you shouldn’t need to use a key every time you want to open or close something.
 

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2daMax said:
Not quite sure if i understood the problem. But did u try pressing down the lid n then turn the key?
The lock mechanism is difficult to operate without be even closing the lid yet. I have apparently put some piece of the puzzle together wrong.
 

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Squibb said:
again this is NOT a lock tumbler issue. I bought 3 matching brand new tumblers keyed alike, the tumbler and key work perfect by themselves. This is a top case latch mechanism issue. There is a linkage that goes from cam behind the latch down to the spring loaded slide that holds the case to the bike. Somewhere in this assembly I have it wrong.
 

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Here is another thread that may help - sadly no pics ..................... http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1592.30

There is talk not only of holding down the lid, but also pressing in the rack locking handle, presumably taking the strain off the internal mechanism. Someone also mentions the rack mechanism getting out of sync, jumping teeth? but how this was fixed isn't clear to me. Maybe you could PM the contributors who may have missed your post.

Good luck sorting the problem ................ KEN
 

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I feel your pain. I got a slightly used top box with my bike and it had a janky key with it. Dealer threw in a few extra lock cylinders so I set about changing it so the ignition key would work on the top box. I spent a lot of time monkeying around with that silly mechanism. Fuuuuudge it sucked. I wish I could give specifics, but basically I dicked around with it until everything lined up and felt right. Good Luck!
 

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Jackpot!!!! I have a friend at yamaha that was able to locate me some instructions. Not sure how to load the .pdf here, but if someone wants them just inbox me your email and I'll shoot it to you!
 

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You can upload a PDF directly to a post here via the Attach option below the window on the full reply page. Just take a look at the file size restrictions before trying to add it.
 

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You can upload a PDF directly to a post here via the Attach option below the window on the full reply page. Just take a look at the file size restrictions before trying to add it.
yeah sadly the pdf i have is 850kB, max appears to be 250kB
 

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Dear Lost/Broken Top Box Lock Members:


Never found the PDF but I used the above YouTube video in Spanish to figure out how the locking mechanism and the stupid little springs were set up.
I went for a ride end of October 2019
and my 2010 lock just fell out because the 2 screws were not Loctited like they were supposed to be. I bought a new lock with 2 new keys(new keys are shorter than the long ignition one). I could not get the new lock to clip in—so I figured to take apart, clean and regrease the locking mechanism. Bad choice—like you I must have spent over 6 hours trying the figure out and reinstall everything. Until that Spanish YouTube video. I don’t speak or understand Spanish except for “cerverza, taco and Senior”. But when the guy on the video put the pieces in order I finally figured it out, popped the springs and plastic tumbler that holds the lock in place and everything works.
Note: there is NO service manual, or lock diagram available from Yamaha—they want you to buy a new top box—I know because I spent 3 weeks searching all USA, European, Australian and Canadian websites for information. I could have put in new pistons faster than it took me to install that new lock—make sure you dab blue Loctite on the 2 screws.

I hope this helps.
I feel your pain!



Bo Roslycky
Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Sent from B. Roslycky’s iPhone X
 

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