XT1200 Super Tenere TC memory module

[greg the pole]

Morning all,

Some folks here have inquired about a possible TC memory module for the XT1200.
My buddy Richard has built a very nice unit for the 2016/2017 HAT and it works a treat.
https://thetenerist.wordpress.com/2018/01/13/honda-crf1000-africa-twin-traction-control-memory-module-installation/

For those interested, please PM me, or email Richard direct at: 12operformance@gmail.com
I think Richard would need a minimum of 5 guys to go through the R and D for the XT.
I no longer own mine, but know a few guys locally that I can borrow theirs as a test mule.

Please specify if your XT is 1st or 2nd gen. I have access to a 1st gen in the Southern Alberta Area. If theres an interested memeber with a 2nd gen, we could likely hook you up with a free TC module if we get to prod your XT.
The kit would come with a complete set of instructions specific to the XT. If I have time, and helping him out, I'll take pictures as we install it on a XT.

Cost would likely be in the $130-$150 USD mark.
Please don't post on how expensive it is, and how you can hold a button to do the same thing.
If it's not for you I don't want to hear about it. Haters and all that...
There's quite a bit material that goes into it, labor not to mention testing for a specific model.

EDIT/UPDATE:
on second thought...this may be harder than anticipated.
Since between NA (Canada and 'Merica) there are 4 different variations between the two countries and generation of bikes.
I currently only have access to a 1st gen Kanukistan model.
For the time being, I'll shelve the TC thing unless theres serious interest from a given group, i.e. 2nd Gen USA bikes

I did put togehter a ghetto ABS off switch for those that are interested (below, click on picture for complete parts list).
This is a pretty easy mod, with about $50 worth of parts laying about.

 

[Thrasherg]

Is this a module that would allow the bike to remain in the last TC mode that you selected? Or something else? I hate having to turn the TC off every time I start my bike in nice weather or ride off-road (I leave TC on when roads are wet & slippery) and would love a gadget that allowed the bike to retain the last TC mode that the bike was in.

Gary

 

[greg the pole]

Is this a module that would allow the bike to remain in the last TC mode that you selected? Or something else? I hate having to turn the TC off every time I start my bike in nice weather or ride off-road (I leave TC on when roads are wet & slippery) and would love a gadget that allowed the bike to retain the last TC mode that the bike was in.

Gary

hi Gary, it's a TC sticky. If you watch the vid, it keeps the TC as set, once the ignition is off.
Greg

 

[Berg_Donk]

email sent, thanks

 

[ballisticexchris]

Hi there Greg, I'm not bothered at all turning off the TC manually. How about making a button to turn of just the rear ABS. Now that I would buy!

 

[Tenman]

I'd be interested in one. And a video would really be good.

 

[Defekticon]

I'm very interested.

 

[greg the pole]

Hi there Greg, I'm not bothered at all turning off the TC manually. How about making a button to turn of just the rear ABS. Now that I would buy!

the ABS is easy. It can be set up on a relay and switch. I'll put something together on the blog today both about the TC and ABS ghetto switch.

Hi there Greg, I'm not bothered at all turning off the TC manually. How about making a button to turn of just the rear ABS. Now that I would buy!

there you go Gary.
It's for the entire ABS pump.
To the best of my limited knowledge, you cannot split the ABS circuits like you can on the AT. I found both on the XT and the AT, that I rarely turn off ABS. Both were good. AT slightly better...Only in realy tricky shit do I bother, then again I have the tool for that

click the link here for parts needed:

 

[ballisticexchris]

the ABS is easy. It can be set up on a relay and switch. I'll put something together on the blog today both about the TC and ABS ghetto switch.

there you go Gary.
It's for the entire ABS pump.
To the best of my limited knowledge, you cannot split the ABS circuits like you can on the AT. I found both on the XT and the AT, that I rarely turn off ABS. Both were good. AT slightly better...Only in realy tricky shit do I bother, then again I have the tool for that

click the link here for parts needed:

Right on thanks. I’m thinking about a switch to turn off the ABS on the rear brake only would be really cool. As far as I know there is no way to do it unless you hook up a line directly from the MC to caliper. Like you say I doubt I would ever really need it. OTOH, I have not ventured off road on this beast yet other than horse trails near home.

 

[Tenman]

I ran a kill switch to my abs fuse with a n inline fuse. No relay. Is this unsafe

 

[greg the pole]

Right on thanks. I’m thinking about a switch to turn off the ABS on the rear brake only would be really cool. As far as I know there is no way to do it unless you hook up a line directly from the MC to caliper. Like you say I doubt I would ever really need it. OTOH, I have not ventured off road on this beast yet other than horse trails near home.

Yeah...pretty sure you cannot split the ABS circuits. It's all or nothing. I could be wrong.
Last time I rode this thing down a quad trail, got a bit carried away. My re-worked suspension worked a treat...got some decent air for a 600lb bike too...it's the landing that didn't do so well. ACD skid plate took most of the damage. The rear drain plug did make contact with the plate, but it just loosened it. Lucky to say the least.
No such issues on the AT. Yards of clearance.

 

[greg the pole]

I ran a kill switch to my abs fuse with a n inline fuse. No relay. Is this unsafe

No issues with the inline fuse and switch. You just need to make sure it's all rated for the amperage.
i.e. if fuse is 30 amps, wire, switch must match the amperage capability.

 

[Thrasherg]

As stated the ABS unit consumes quite a bit of current when it operates, so you need to make sure your switch and wiring is sufficient to carry the required current. The relay is a tidier solution as it keeps the high current wiring very short (just from the fuse holder to the relay and back, the relay should be located very near the fuse holder), where as your solution will have several feet of wiring (depending where you locate your switch) and that could cause an issue (voltage drop across the wiring, or the wiring/switch failing due to the high current demand).

 

[greg the pole]

As stated the ABS unit consumes quite a bit of current when it operates, so you need to make sure your switch and wiring is sufficient to carry the required current. The relay is a tidier solution as it keeps the high current wiring very short (just from the fuse holder to the relay and back, the relay should be located very near the fuse holder), where as your solution will have several feet of wiring (depending where you locate your switch) and that could cause an issue (voltage drop across the wiring, or the wiring/switch failing due to the high current demand).

what he said!
Wires, switch, and anything involved needs to be rated for the ABS current load.
With a relay, your control circuit is exempt from that (12 acc supply power, switch, and wire).
I posted the same on advr, and had the same question about the switch only.
I'll spend $4 on a relay and just run 18 ga single pair wire up to the switch, and back.
10 different ways to skin the cat.

 

[Tenman]

No issues with the inline fuse and switch. You just need to make sure it's all rated for the amperage.
i.e. if fuse is 30 amps, wire, switch must match the amperage capability.

I don't have a clue what mine is. It was a cheap kill switch and wire I had laying around. I'll be checkin it out now. My poboy switch has been on there for years. I'm lucky I ain't fried something. What do I search for on Ebay? Thanx to all.

 

[greg the pole]

I don't have a clue what mine is. It was a cheap kill switch and wire I had laying around. I'll be checkin it out now. My poboy switch has been on there for years. I'm lucky I ain't fried something. What do I search for on Ebay? Thanx to all.

just as stated abouve, you will need 30 amp rated wire and switch. Or go to your parts store and ask for a 30 amp rated automotive NO/NC normally open/normally closed relay, then wire up as per diagram. you will need to provide your switch with a 12V acc source.
If you're in doubt, or can't do the above, pull out the switch. You're basically running a high current on a wire that cannot handle it, pretty much every time you ride

 

[Tenman]

thanx a ton

 

[Berg_Donk]

FWIW I fitted a SPDT 80A amp relay in series with the fuse. This way when the relay is unpowered its connected normally, then a momentary push of the 'kill' button powers the relay and kills the ABS. Needs 1 maybe 2 secs to kill it then relay is unpowered again with ABS staying off till a reboot.

This way its a 'fail safe' setup, if the relay or switch fail, its all factory as long as the relay fail isn't the contacts. 80A rating leaves plenty of margin in case.