Will you take the vaccine

will you take the vaccine

  • yes

    Votes: 91 37.0%
  • no

    Votes: 24 9.8%
  • maybe later

    Votes: 21 8.5%
  • heck no

    Votes: 30 12.2%
  • BTDT - Got the shot

    Votes: 80 32.5%

  • Total voters
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HeliMark

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From what I have read, your immunity from actually having COVID, depends on the severity you had. Mild, and they say somewhere in the 30-60 day range. Severe, and somewhere around 90 days. They don't understand the reason for the difference at this point. So far, everyone that has had the vaccine, including the ones in the test program, are still protected, although how long is unknown at this point.
 

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. . . . Mild, and they say somewhere in the 30-60 day range. Severe, and somewhere around 90 days. They don't understand the reason for the difference at this point. . . .
I had Covid early April and had a positive antibody test on Tuesday this week so much longer than 6 months immunity for me. Still struggling with some breathing difficulties though
To me, that would indicate that there's some form of the virus still in the body. Severe would likely mean that it lasted longer, forcing the body to keep producing the antibodies. Like Rob's continuing difficulties. . . . the body is still fighting the virus's side effects by still producing the antibodies.

From what I've read on the vax, that's why there needs to be two doses. The first dose gets it started, but doesn't continue producing the antibodies, because the initial threat is gone. The second dose tricks the body into thinking the threat is going to be continuing.
 

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Having the antibodies in your blood is normal after you’ve recovered from an infection, that’s the way immunity works. If you had the measles as a kid, you will still have the antibodies to that virus today. Certainly you are not infected, again or still infected with measles.


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To me, that would indicate that there's some form of the virus still in the body. Severe would likely mean that it lasted longer, forcing the body to keep producing the antibodies. Like Rob's continuing difficulties. . . . the body is still fighting the virus's side effects by still producing the antibodies.
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From what I've read in multiple places and from my daughter, the long term effects are not because the virus is still active. The cause chain is not totally known but is widely believed to be a combination of damage caused when the virus was active, including various types of inflammation on a wide scale that leads to scarring of the kidney, lungs, heart, and brain tissues. They are also looking into how the inflammation screws up the hypothalamus, pituitary, and other glands regulating the entire range of body functions. Just damaging the glands sounds like it could be a root issue.

There are less people dying but more and more long termers. Fortunately, the variants are all still the same base and having had COVID or getting the vaccine gives enough antibodies to fight the base virus so all you who've gotten either should be good.
 

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Having the antibodies in your blood is normal after you’ve recovered from an infection, that’s the way immunity works. If you had the measles as a kid, you will still have the antibodies to that virus today. Certainly you are not infected, again or still infected with measles.
No argument, but why do some antibodies stay, while others are only short term? It would be great if the covid antibodies were permanent.
 
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From what I've read in multiple places and from my daughter, the long term effects are not because the virus is still active. The cause chain is not totally known but is widely believed to be a combination of damage caused when the virus was active, including various types of inflammation on a wide scale that leads to scarring of the kidney, lungs, heart, and brain tissues. They are also looking into how the inflammation screws up the hypothalamus, pituitary, and other glands regulating the entire range of body functions. Just damaging the glands sounds like it could be a root issue.

There are less people dying but more and more long termers. Fortunately, the variants are all still the same base and having had COVID or getting the vaccine gives enough antibodies to fight the base virus so all you who've gotten either should be good.
That’s what has happened to me. I have no antibodies (other than the vaccine) but my body is still struggling to repair the damage done by the virus to my spleen and lungs. I went down with it in July and there are still days when I can’t get out of bed. Weird side effects are my hands turning pure white and my face burning even though I don’t have a temperature


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No argument, but why do some antibodies stay, while others are only short term? It would be great if the covid antibodies were permanent.
That’s a good question. I think for stable viruses like polio, small pox, measles, chicken pox, etc. it’s a good investment in the body’s energy to continue producing those antibodies. Each type of antibody is produced by a separate population of T cells. For every disease that you have immunity to, there’s a population of T cells producing the antibodies. Your body must continuously renew and maintain this population.

For diseases with unstable viruses like those causing colds and flus, nature seems to have figured out that there’s no benefit keeping a population of T cells at the ready, so maintains them only long enough not to get repeatedly infected over and over in the same epidemic. Nature is elegantly efficient at energy use.

What I’m reading is that the covid virus is more stable than typical colds and flu virii, (in the parts of the genome that control virulence) but may or may not be as stable as some of the viruses above. It’s still unknown at this point, but there are indicators that up to a year immunity is present in some people.
Of course it’s only been around a year or so, so knowledge is limited.


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Large hospital group here in Houston had a 4 day drive thru vaccination drive for 65 or over folks this past week. 14,500 people received first vaccine. Wife and I volunteered to work one day and were offered the vaccine and we both received it. Mid February we volunteer another day and receive final shot. No side effects and shot was painless.
 

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Large hospital group here in Houston had a 4 day drive thru vaccination drive for 65 or over folks this past week. 14,500 people received first vaccine. Wife and I volunteered to work one day and were offered the vaccine and we both received it. Mid February we volunteer another day and receive final shot. No side effects and shot was painless.
Cool. Good that you can assist too!
 

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Large hospital group here in Houston had a 4 day drive thru vaccination drive for 65 or over folks this past week. 14,500 people received first vaccine. Wife and I volunteered to work one day and were offered the vaccine and we both received it. Mid February we volunteer another day and receive final shot. No side effects and shot was painless.
That’s impressive numbers!! Well done! Get my second vax on Sunday


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News flash right out of our new Commander In Chiefs mouth to the Americans and illegal citizens living in the US:

"We are going to treat this disease like a war". What does this mean? Just like our CA Governor has been doing all along. It means triage treatment and vaccination. So a death row inmate who rapes and murders gets treatment before the person he raped if it means he has a better chance at living.

Right now homeless and prison inmates are first in line for the vaccines. If you are pumping iron and getting conjugal visits behind bars then you are first in line along with the drug addicted and alcoholic homeless population.
 

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From what I've read in multiple places and from my daughter, the long term effects are not because the virus is still active. The cause chain is not totally known but is widely believed to be a combination of damage caused when the virus was active, including various types of inflammation on a wide scale that leads to scarring of the kidney, lungs, heart, and brain tissues. They are also looking into how the inflammation screws up the hypothalamus, pituitary, and other glands regulating the entire range of body functions. Just damaging the glands sounds like it could be a root issue.

There are less people dying but more and more long termers. Fortunately, the variants are all still the same base and having had COVID or getting the vaccine gives enough antibodies to fight the base virus so all you who've gotten either should be good.
Our Boris is saying the new varient over here is 70% more transmitable and 30% worse. There is the Brazil and South African one aswell. If they contine to allow international travel it could get really out of control. Private jet companies are doing well out of it.
 

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News flash right out of our new Commander In Chiefs mouth to the Americans and illegal citizens living in the US:

"We are going to treat this disease like a war". What does this mean? Just like our CA Governor has been doing all along. It means triage treatment and vaccination. So a death row inmate who rapes and murders gets treatment before the person he raped if it means he has a better chance at living.

Right now homeless and prison inmates are first in line for the vaccines. If you are pumping iron and getting conjugal visits behind bars then you are first in line along with the drug addicted and alcoholic homeless population.
That sounds an odd approach, Links to that please...
 

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Our Boris is saying the new varient over here is 70% more transmitable and 30% worse. There is the Brazil and South African one aswell. If they contine to allow international travel it could get really out of control. Private jet companies are doing well out of it.
Dr. Fauci was saying that while the vaccines will still work for the new variations, they may have the effectivity reduced form the mid 90%s to 80%-ish
 
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